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Latest post Fri, Dec 1 2006 3:24 PM by Teardrop. 39 replies.
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Teardrop  +  295661 Mon, 20 Nov 06 09:51 PM

Jew Why a Jew can grow his beard in order to practice his faith
But when Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist! Muslim
Nun Why a nun can be covered from head to toe in order to devote herself to God
But when Muslimah does the same she oppressed Hijab
Western Women When a western women stays at home to look after her house and kids she is respected because of sacrificing herself and doing good for the household?
But when a Muslim woman does so by her will, they say, "she needs to be liberated"! Muslim Women
Anything Any girl can go to university wearing what she wills and have her rights and freedom?
But when Muslimah wears a Hijab they prevent her from entering her university! Hijab
Subject When a child dedicates himself to a subject he has potential.
But when he dedicates himself to Islam he is hopeless! Islam
Question When a Christian or a Jew kills someone religion is not mentioned, but when Muslim is charged with a crime, it is Islam that goes to trial! Question
Hero When someone sacrfices himself to keep others alive, he is noble and all respect him.
But when a Palestinian does that to save his son from being killed, his brother's arm being broken, his mother being raped, his home being destroyed, and his mosque being violated -- He gets the title of a terrorist! Why? Because he is a Muslim! Terrorist
Question When there is a trouble we accept any solution? If the solution lies in Islam, we refuse to take a look at it. Question
Car When someone drives a perfect car in a bad way no one blames the car.
But when any Muslim makes a mistake or treats people in a bad manner - people say "Islam is the reason"! Islam
Newspapers Without looking to the tradition of Islam, people believe what the newspapers say.
But question what the Quran says!
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YoHf  +  295676 Mon, 20 Nov 06 10:29 PM

I'd better not express my opinion here. These days I'm trying my best not to be rude to people.

Here's part of what you said:

Why a Jew can grow his beard in order to practice his faith

But when Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist!

 

Who on earth ever told you this? Extremists and terrorists are not called so because they are Muslims and have a beard, you know. They're called so because they actually are extremists and terrorists.

But question what the Quran says!

Again, if you want to talk about the Quran, you'll never find something in it that's even slightly similar to "women are to wear a burqa (or stuff like that)". That was just an invention created by your most close-minded male society to keep women under control, to make them bow their heads. So please don't come and tell me that every single one of them does want to wear it.

You also said that if they wear that kind of dresses they cannot attend classes at University, and I do agree on that point, because it's part of our laws and tradition (you know, we have traditions too) not to allow people dressed in such a way to enter public places, for a matter of security as well.

Have a nice day,

- YoHf

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Kabayan  +  295738 Tue, 21 Nov 06 04:29 AM
I have to admit that I found so many stereotyping on Muslims and negative view on Islam, but when a muslim think that the rest of the world are stereotyping Muslims or have negative view on Islam, that's another example of "stereotyping"........Am I right ?  Smile [:)]
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Qur'an says that women should wear clothes "modesty".  Burqa is not mentioned.
Teardrop  +  295776 Tue, 21 Nov 06 07:51 AM

Hello Yohf,

Do you have a proof that muslims are terrorists and extermists because they are "actually" so? any religion can never permits to its believers to be terrorists or extermist. the religion is to make us better not worse. I know that there are muslims who causes terrible such as Ben Laden, but not all muslims like him. I'm a muslim, and I have a very close christian friend. Please do not generalize few cases to the all.

Another thing, the holy Quran say what means that "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." AL-AHZAB(033.059)http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html

So the holy Quran says that all muslims must wear a scarf when the do outside their homes. why? Go back to the verse to find the answer. How can forbidding wearing the scarf a kind of "security"? Does the muslim's hair provide you with security and covering it eleminates that security?

The last point, I'm wearing my hijab "scarf" because I believe in it, not because anybody forced me to do so.

Thank you very much for giving your opinion. I respect it no matter what. I hope that you don't understand me wrong.

Hoping that we will be friends ( I'll not kill you ao send you a poision by the enternet - just kidding). 

Have e nice day full of flowers.

Tanit  +  295863 Tue, 21 Nov 06 12:04 PM
"Without looking to the tradition of Islam, people believe what the newspapers say.

But question what the Quran says"

I respect too much the other religions to question what their Books say. And, also, I respect the others' tradition. If I went to an Islamic country, I'd dress the way is more appropriate and I'd behave according to their customs.

But, as Yohf said (we are from the same country), we have traditions, too. And, what's more, we have laws. Everybody who is going to live in our country MUST comply with our laws and IS EXPECTED to respect our traditions.

As far as security is concerned, the problem doesn't lie with the veil, but with the burka: our law says you cannot be completely covered, because we had problems with terrorism in the late '60s. We have to obey that law, why shouldn't you do the same if you lived in our country?

Some muslim women in my country refused even to be photographed (for their Italian ID card!!!) without the veil, but in the documents you shouldn't wear anything on your head (for instance, they wouldn't accept a photo of mine with a hat).

Another example. We used to have crucifixes in our public schools and offices. They were part of our traditions, since - despite what many people think - we are not really a religious country (many people are baptised but, for instance, they don't go regularly to a Mass). And you know what? Muslim opposition was so strong that in many places crucifixes have been taken away.

Now, let me ask you a few questions.

1. Should the respect you are (rightly) asking for be unilateral?

2. What if you lived in a country with different laws/traditions? Would you comply with/respect them? To what extent?

3. If you discovered your laws/traditions are against the ones of the country you're living in, what would you do? Would you try to impose yours? Would you try to change them? Would you try to integrate with the local community? Or would you leave to another country more similar to yours (nobody forces you to leave somewhere, do they)?

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Ruslana  +  295917 Tue, 21 Nov 06 02:02 PM

 Teardrop wrote:
Do you have a proof that muslims are terrorists and extermists because they are "actually" so?

Teardrop, I think YoHf's idea is that ANY person who IS a terrorist or an extremist will be called so, no matter what his nationality is.

I completely agree with Tanit. There is a proverb I like a lot (though in Russian it sounds different, but the idea is the same): "When at Rome, do as the Romans do". If you don't like the way the Romans do, nobody compels you to stay in Rome. You are free to leave for your home land.

By the way, why are so many Muslims eager to move to Western countries and to live/work there instead of living and working in their own countries for the weal of the latters?

 Tanit wrote:
Another example. We used to have crucifixes in our public schools and offices. They were part of our traditions, since - despite what many people think - we are not really a religious country (many people are baptised but, for instance, they don't go regularly to a Mass). And you know what? Muslim opposition was so strong that in many places crucifixes have been taken away.

I'm not a very religious person, but this is really outstanding. It's the same as if someone whom I didn't ask to come to my house would come anyway and say that since now I was supposed to live in my house the way that someone wanted me to. Is it fair?

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Ruslana  +  295926 Tue, 21 Nov 06 02:31 PM


 YoHf wrote:
I'd better not express my opinion here. These days I'm trying my best not to be rude to people.

Oh my goodness, I shall take advantage of these days, lol... Stick out tongue [:P]Big Smile [:D]

 Kabayan wrote:
I have to admit that I found so many stereotyping on Muslims and negative view on Islam, but when a muslim think that the rest of the world are stereotyping Muslims or have negative view on Islam, that's another example of "stereotyping"........Am I right ?  Smile [:)]

I think you're right.

 Teardrop wrote:
When a Christian or a Jew kills someone religion is not mentioned, but when Muslim is charged with a crime, it is Islam that goes to trial!

I don't know what happens in other countries, but in Russia the situation is often the contrary. When a "Christian" attacks a "Muslim", news says that it happens because of national, religion motives, intolerance, etc. But when a "Muslim" attacks a "Christian", it's called mere criminal and no word about religion. Maybe, it is mere criminal in both the cases because criminal is criminal no matter what nationality criminals belong to?

Unfortunately, mass media likes turning everything upside down and making "hot news", sensations, and scandals. This is the way they win their bread.

Desert Lord, 3 yr 4 days ago

thanks Tanit

you are right
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