will/would

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Linguaphile  #436497  Mon, 29 Oct 07 07:09 PM

My parents wouldn't allow me to go to the party.

My parents won't allow me to go to the party.

What's the difference between the two?

  
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Grammar Geek  #436502  Mon, 29 Oct 07 07:13 PM

wouldn't - the party was in the past

won't - the party is in the future

  
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Marius Hancu  #436505  Mon, 29 Oct 07 07:19 PM
 Grammar Geek wrote:
wouldn't - the party was in the past

Not necessarily, IMO:

Should our neighbours organize a party, my parents wouldn't allow me to go. They dislike them very much.
  
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Marius Hancu  #436507  Mon, 29 Oct 07 07:23 PM

My parents wouldn't allow me to go to any party, if there is one in the neighbourhood. Hypothetical/conditional.

My parents won't allow me to go to the party. Definite.

  
Grammar Geek  #436523  Mon, 29 Oct 07 08:10 PM

With additional context, "would" can be for a hypothetical party, yes.

As a stand-alone sentence, "would" is for the past.

  
Marius Hancu  #436524  Mon, 29 Oct 07 08:12 PM
 Grammar Geek wrote:

As a stand-alone sentence, "would" is for the past.

I agree.
  
CalifJim  #436569  Mon, 29 Oct 07 11:04 PM
As a stand-alone sentence, "would" is for the past.
Actually, to split hairs, it's "would not" that's for the past.   It gives the sense of "refused to".

My parents wouldn't allow me to go to the party.

Without the not (n't), I don't get the sense that it's a past tense.

My parents would allow me to go to the party sounds more like the hypothetical present than the past to me --sticking with the idea of a "stand-alone sentence".  (As always, I grant that dressing this up with more words to give it another context could change the sense of the sentence.)

I wonder if there are any other cases in English where the tense we "feel" depends on the presence of a negative.  This one's strange. Smile [:)]

CJ

  
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