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Chariot  #238106  Tue, 20 Jun 06 11:15 AM

How is the word "win" used? Can we say "win a game, three points, a victory, money, a match, a team"? Thanks for your help.

  
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Marius Hancu  #238220  Tue, 20 Jun 06 05:18 PM
Win against another team. Beat another team.

The rest are OK.


  
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The17pointscale  #238239  Tue, 20 Jun 06 06:35 PM

"win a point" sounds a bit awkward to me. perhaps my hesitancy to endorse this phrase is because the primary definition of "win" is "to achieve victory or finish first in a competition," and "a point" tends to be only a step toward such a victory rather than the ultimate victory. still, a google search suggests that "win a point" is accepted usage for tennis, volleyball, and other sports.

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Marius Hancu  #238243  Tue, 20 Jun 06 06:45 PM
Yes, winning a point definitely works in tennisSmile [:)]
  
Grammar Geek  #238252  Tue, 20 Jun 06 07:00 PM

...and karate, and debating, and many others.

You'll often see "a hard-won point."  However, it does NOT work for goal. You can win a point, but not a goal... even if the goal is worth one point.

  
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Goodman  #238308  Tue, 20 Jun 06 10:44 PM

 The17pointscale wrote:

"Win a point" sounds a bit awkward to me. perhaps my hesitancy to endorse this phrase is because the primary definition of "win" is "to achieve victory or finish first in a competition," and "a point" tends to be only a step toward such a victory rather than the ultimate victory. still, a google search suggests that "win a point" is accepted usage for tennis, volleyball, and other sports.

-andrew

I tend to agree, “Winning a point” is not really grammatically wrong, though it does sound a bit “rough on the edges” to me as well. 

I would say, score a point, a victory but win a championship, a match.  But ultimately, it really depends on how it’s used in a given context.

  
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