WITH EFFECT FROM.

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champunique  #101080  Thu, 19 May 05 08:31 AM
Hi everybody,
Please read the following sentence:It is a sentence used in an appointment letter of my friend at the time of joining a company
''You have been appointed as a section officer in this company WITH EFFECT FROM may 23rd 2005.''
It appears to me the sentence is grammmitically correct, but I prefer to use EFFECTIVE FROM in the place of WITH EFFECT FROM.
Do you agree with me? Please answer with an explation.
  
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joeviee  #101109  Thu, 19 May 05 10:14 AM
Hi Champunigue,

I'm afraid you are not quite right about the use of "EFFECTIVE FROM".

I'm not a native speaker, but let me try my best to explain to you.

Effective = with effect from

If you say "effective from" this could mean 'with effect from from', the word 'from' is

a repetiton.

The letter you read is correct but if you prefer to use "effective" rather than "with effect

from", by all means, just remember to get rid the word 'from'.

It souds perfect natural to me if you say, "You have been appointed as a section officer in

company effective May 23rd 2005."

Hope it helps.
  
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Mister Micawber  #101179  Thu, 19 May 05 02:43 PM

I had never noticed the phrase before, but googling gives 685,000 pages of 'with effect from' -- many used in an 'effective date' sense in business context.

Otherwise, I would agree with Joe in using 'effective May 23rd', the phrasing that I am familiar with.

  
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champunique  #101480  Fri, 20 May 05 02:22 PM
Hi joeviee
thanks a lot for your short and clear explation.
  
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