Why without the indefinite article?

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Anonymous  #281289  Sun, 15 Oct 06 06:26 PM

Hi,

Please have a look at this. Why no article there?

Soup is (a???) liquid food made of ...

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Clive  #281315  Sun, 15 Oct 06 08:21 PM

Hi,

Why no article there?

Soup is (a???) liquid food made of ...

Some nouns, like 'food', can be both countable and uncountable.

eg You need food in order to live.

Meat and vegetables are two different foods.  

In your example, you can omit or include the article, depending on which of these two ways you are thinking.

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Believer  #281387  Mon, 16 Oct 06 12:22 AM

Hi,

A post in this forum seems to note that the first one is OK, whereas the second one is not. Can this also work depending on which of the two ways I am thinking? Or is that both would work but people would normally use the second one?

1. have discussion on that.   (Not OK??)

2. have a discussion on that.  (OK??)

  
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Clive  #281482  Mon, 16 Oct 06 05:58 AM

Hi,

For the word 'discussion', #1 sounds very wrong. #2 sounds fine, although there are alternatives to the preposition 'on'.

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Believer  #283569  Fri, 20 Oct 06 04:38 PM

Thank you.

I have difficulty seeing clearly why No. 4 would be wrong. What am I missing?

1. There is discussion  (Good, I think.)

2. There is a discussion. (Good, also, I think.)

3. Have a discussion. (Good, I think.)

4. Have discussion   (Not good. Why??) 

  
Clive  #283678  Fri, 20 Oct 06 10:18 PM

Hi,

I have difficulty seeing clearly why No. 4 would be wrong. What am I missing?

1. There is discussion  (Good, I think.)

2. There is a discussion. (Good, also, I think.)

3. Have a discussion. (Good, I think.)

4. Have discussion   (Not good. Why??) 

'Discussion' can be used as both count and noncount.

2 and 3 are count, and sound fine.

1 and 4 are noncount. In both cases, 'some discussion' sounds more normal and more OK to me. Perhaps it's because the uncountable word 'discussion' sounds so very general a way of speaking. 1 sounds fairly OK, but it's true that 4 sounds much less OK, at least to me. Perhaps it's really just that 'have discussion' is not a common collocation.

Best wishes, Clive

  
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