ssendur  +  578221 Mon, 20 Oct 08 10:59 AM hi i have a word order problem. for example in this sentence : "C++ variables have a property in addition to their value and type known as scope." , if this was my sentence i would say it in this order : "C++ variables have a property known as scope in addition to their value and type." or i would say like this : " C++ variables in addition to their value and type, have a property known as scope." . The first sentence is the original one from the book, but isnt there an ambigious expression "type known as scope" ; is the type known as scope or variables have another property which is known as scope? how can a native english speaker differenciate between the two. please help me on that, i have been a word encapsulation problem since i staterted to learn english. Thank you in advance. ssendur Joined on Fri, Mar 25 2005 New Member 02 i like languages as they help me communicate with people.. Word Order, Learn English

	Mister Micawber  +  578288 Mon, 20 Oct 08 02:18 PM .  Hello ssendur-- and welcome to English Forums. Context prevents the original from being misunderstood, and that is a frequent task for context:  without it, many utterances are ambiguous. Yours are OK, too, but one needs punctuation repairs.  These are all good in context: "C++ variables have a property in addition to their value and type known as scope." "C++ variables have a property known as scope in addition to their value and type." "C++ variables, in addition to their value and type, have a property known as scope." or this: "C++ variables have a property, in addition to their value and type, known as scope." . Mister Micawber Joined on Wed, Aug 4 2004 Yokohama Veteran Member 30,507 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master-- that's all.' Punctuation

	RayH  +  578298 Mon, 20 Oct 08 02:35 PM ssendur “"C++ variables have a property in addition to their value and type known as scope." ” Welcome to the forums, ssendur. I agree with Mister Micawber's comments. This kind of construction troubles me too. I see it far too often in books and other writings that presumably have had the benefit of professional editing. In this case the potential for confusion is fairly small but in other contexts this kind of formulation can cause a reader to have to stop and decipher what is actually meant. Oh well, I guess threre's nothing for it but to press on. RayH Joined on Sat, Mar 22 2008 Contributing Member 1,555 Native speaker of U. S. English. Not a grammar expert. Constructions