Shall I write my name and address at the top right side of my Motivation Letter..?

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Yoong Liat  #507820  Wed, 30 Apr 08 07:46 PM

Hi Nona

Yoong Liat

In BrE, when you start your letter with Dear Sir or Dear Madam, or Dear Sir/Madam, you should end it with 'Yours faithfully'.

Could you let me know whether what I've written is correct?  Clive believes it may not be current usage.

Thanks in advance.

Best wishes

YL 

 

 

 

  
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tamguatlay  #508131  Thu, 01 May 08 02:18 PM

Yoong Liat

Hi Nona

Yoong Liat

In BrE, when you start your letter with Dear Sir or Dear Madam, or Dear Sir/Madam, you should end it with 'Yours faithfully'.

Could you let me know whether what I've written is correct?  Clive believes it may not be current usage.

Thanks in advance.

Best wishes

YL 

 

 

 

I am a new member. I find it funny that Nona had not replied to YL's request to confirm whether he is correct. Being a new member I am confused. Clive said usage is outdated. YL said dictionary said it is not wrong.

I think I will be happy if one British native confirms whether YL is right or wrong. While I respect Clive as being good in American English, I think YL cannot be talking something he does not know because he uses British English. I hope Nona or a British speaker will answer YL's post or I will be very confused.

Thanks in advance.

  
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Tanit  #508400  Fri, 02 May 08 09:41 AM
Hi Tamguatlay,

I am not Nona, and you probably won't trust me because I'm not a native speaker of English.  I only wanted to share my experience, which can add something to the topic.

As an ESL student of BrE, I was taught to end a letter with "Your faithfully" when it addresses an unknown addressee (i.e., when it begins with "Dear Sir or Madam") and with "Yours sincerely" when you know his/her name (i.e., the letter begins with "Dear Mr/Ms/Miss [+surname]").

However, during my year in the UK, I saw the expression "Your faithfully" only twice, in two letters written by members of my University staff.  Funnily enough, the first one began with "To whom it may concern" (another extremely rare expression Smile) and the second with "Miss [+ my surname]", two opening formulae I was taught NOT to use, when having classes Smile ... none of them actually began with "Dear Sir or Madam"!  Both the letters I mentioned (I've still got them) come from a University, so I'm obviously not talking about illiterate writers.

Another thing I can say is that my British teacher on the one hand strongly advised us to close formal letters in our CAE and CPE exams with "Yours faithfully" or "Yours sincerely" (depending on the circumstances) because those were the expression the examiners were looking for.  On the other hand, he also warned us that these day most people, also in the UK, will close those letters with "Sincerely", "Regards", "Kind regards".

If my experience is anything to go by, what we learn sometimes can differ from what is actually done nowadays, just as Clive said.
  
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tamguatlay  #508455  Fri, 02 May 08 12:26 PM

"Thanks, Tanit for the explanation. Now I hope a British English speaker will comment on this topic because like, YL, I was taught by my former British teacher to end with "Yours faithfully" when starting with 'Dear Sir" or "Dear Madam". What you said is surprising to me because we must know what educated native British will write. I hope Nona, Mr.P or any British member will comment to end the confusion. I'm getting more confused and want to learn the right way.

Thanking in advance to the respectable British member/s who answer.

 

  
Feebs11  #508661  Fri, 02 May 08 07:12 PM
Marian4eto, re your original question:

 

Top right hand corner = your address [no name]

followed by the date.

 

Left hand side = recipient's address 

 

All the other information they might need [telephone numbers, e-mail addresses etc] should appear either in the application documents or in your cv. 

 

Hope all goes well. 

 


  
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Ashish Tiwari  #508674  Fri, 02 May 08 08:11 PM
Hi,

Yoong Liat is correct about the dictionary bit. I have the same dictionary (OALD 7th Edition). 

Regards, Ashish 

  
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tamguatlay  #508699  Fri, 02 May 08 09:13 PM

HI Feebs

You have given a detailed format of the letter. But you failed to answer when we use 'Dear Sir or Madam' should we end "Your faithfuly' or 'Yours sincerely'?

Grateful that you, a British native, has replied to my question.

Look forward to your reply.

Thanks in advance. 

 

  
Feebs11  #508743  Sat, 03 May 08 12:54 AM
Sorry.

Letters not addressed to an individual are ended with "Yours faithfully", so that  is what you need for your letter.

  
nona the brit  #508894  Sat, 03 May 08 10:10 AM

Hello, popped in at last!

AS Feebs says, we still use the 'Yours faithfully' form when we are not writing to a named individual (Dear Sir or Dear Madam etc).

We only use 'Yours sincerely' when we are writing to a named person.

Well, formally anyway. Other less formal endings are becoming quite common in less formal situations or when you know the person fairly well.

In this case I'd go for 'Yours faithfully'.

  
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