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jessica144  +  399 Wed, 21 May 03 02:09 AM
For example:

Dear sir/madam,

(letter.. )

Yours faithfully, or yours sincerely, or thanks,
regards?

Jessica
Best answer by Pia  +  407 Wed, 21 May 03 02:36 PM
Well, there are different schools of thought nowadays. However the basic rule is that when you use Dear Sir/Madam then you end with yours faithfully. When you know the name of recipient then use yours sincerely.


General example:

Dear Mr Brown,

blah blah blah.

Yours sincerely,
Me.

When addressing a close friend or colleague and you use the first name, then it's:

Dear Jessica,

blah blah,

best wishes, warm wishes, best regards, warm regards, kind regards,
Me


Increasingly, especially in the United States, people are signing off with best / kind / warm regards regardless of the form of address.

Hope this helps.
Pia
Best answer by bpb89  +  63090 Thu, 23 Dec 04 03:13 PM
Although all the above is correct it can become somewhat of a minefield when entering the realms of Perigee, Royalty & other titles; For example, if writing to your mayor it should set out as follows if you live in a City:

The Rt. Worshipful The Mayor of
(Councillor )
The Mayors Parlor
City Hall





Dear Mr/Madame Mayor, (Change as required



Respectfully Yours,

Joe Bloggs

HOWEVER this is not true if you live in a Town or Borough:

The Worshipful The Mayor of
(Councillor )
The Mayors Parlor
Town Hall





Dear Mr/Madame Mayor, (Change as required)



Respectfully Yours,

Joe Bloggs

Note that if in a City the Mayor is Worshipful in his/her own rights (The Rt. Worshipful), otherwise the Mayor is appointed as worshipful (The Worshipful). Also note that the Mayors forename is NEVER used (extremely rude to call the Mayor by his/her first name in public) and even if you know the Mayor you always end the letter with Respectfully yours (irrespective of gender or location)
Best answer by Tallulah Tam  +  121195 Mon, 25 Jul 05 03:28 PM
Goldmund, "Kindest regards" is more acceptable than "Fondly" and could be used between two people with a working relationship. For instance If I had been to your home and met your family, or if I had been out for a game of golf with you. "Regards and best wishes" would probably be more appropriate. "Kindest regards." I would probably save for someone in hospital, or an elderly person. It suggests caring beyond just sending your regards.

 "With regards" is fairly formal, viz "Give My Regards To Broadway." No, I would not be offended if someone ended their letter with "Regards." Regard, has several meanings. All serious and respectful.  "Fondly" on the other hand has a sexual connotation, especially in England.

 Fondle: Caress, to touch or stroke lovingly. (According to the OED).

 Fondly:  1) Affectionate, loving. 2) Over affectionate, doting.

Affectionate:  Loving, showing affection. (denoting emotion)

None of these should be used in a business letter.

Best answer by Anonymous  +  121651 Wed, 27 Jul 05 12:31 AM

The correct usage of 'faithfully' and 'sincerely' is taught in junior school English. If addressed Dear Sir or Madam then it is 'faithfully' or to a named person 'sincerely'.   

However, today I have been rebuked by my new boss for using 'sincerely' instead of 'faithfully' when the salutation is Dear Sir. Why did he do this?

Well, in my two previous companies I was told it was 'old fashioned' and 'sincerely' would suffice especially 'Sincerely' if the salutation is Dear Sir in a new modern world where formality is now more relaxed, 'faithfully' is to be used only if the letter is a legal  document or appertaining to strictest business formalities. 

So, in a marketing letter to an unknown recipient it acceptable to sign off Yours Sincerely with a capital.  My last company (British owned marketing company) paid for me to attend a course to be fed this information and my previous company was an American owned British based company, both of these companies abided by this ruling.

Today I have had my wrists slapped and been fed a great deal of sarcastic feedback, as though I am some sort of moron, as I abided by a newly introduced relaxed discipline. My current company is a marketing/sales company.

I was also taught that in an effective marketing letter it is a marketing ploy to always add on a  P.S. even if it is a business letter. The rules are now more flexible but it is not always easy to confirm what is correct or otherwise.  Feeling very miffed..........yours truly

Best answer by Mister Micawber  +  121659 Wed, 27 Jul 05 01:20 AM

Dear Miffed,

I do sympathize with you, and I am glad you have brought your unfortunate experience to our attention, because throughout this discussion, the most obvious and pragmatic of advice-- 'ask your superior what s/he prefers'-- was not offered.  Still, wrist-slapping and sarcasm seem less than adult reactions.

We have seen a wide range of opinions here, so it is evident that usage varies enormously.  Those who are trying to sell themselves or their product or service must choose the option, formal or friendly, which they think most appropriate to their needs, and those who are employed by others should check company policy in this as in many matters.

Sincerely yours,

MM


Best answer by Anonymous  +  220434 Fri, 28 Apr 06 02:10 AM
"love and kisses" or "hugs and kisses" are not uncommon, but these would generally only be used for family, usually an adult writing to a child or a maybe a child writing to an adult.

Adding an x to the end of an email is quite common amoung young people.   Girls will tend to do it to any friend of either sex, and some lads will tend to do it to any girl.  This does not imply an attraction.

People who do this will to add a single x all the time. eg:

... I'll see you at the weekend.

John
x

In SMS text messaging an x is often added without even a name, eg:

I'll see you at the weekend.x

I would be wary about using more than one x.  Usually three is ok from a girl, but from a lad to a girl it might mean that he fancied her.

Using any number of x's to family is fine.

Best answer by Grammar Geek  +  248617 Tue, 25 Jul 06 06:23 AM
MrPedantic

Hello Anon

"Yours truly" is mostly used in American English, so I'm not too sure. Maybe a passing AmE will let us know.

MrP

Passing American here.

Having spent most of my day today drafting business letters (dunning letters, actually), I can honestly say I have never closed a business letter with anything other than "Sincerely,"  In no way is this considered casual or informal in business use in the U.S.

I don't know that I have ever used "Yours truly," but I suppose I would use it in personal correspondence to someone I don't know well. For example, if a friend of a friend had hosted me on a visit, my "bread and butter note" might be closed that way. Since we are a shockingly casual race, we tend to end letters with things like "Thanks again," or "Looking forward to seeing you soon," and then signing our names.

Sometimes as I find myself typing "Sincerely" I have this passing fanciful notion that somewhere in a vault are all the letter that were written insincerely, but were not allowed to be sent out.

Best answer by Tidus  +  298198 Mon, 27 Nov 06 05:48 PM
Formally in English there should only be "Yours sincerely" or "Yours faithfully".  Note that sincerely never starts with a capital S or faithfully with a capital F.

If you begin a letter with Dear Sir/Madam, then it should be signed off with Yours faithfully.  Everything else ie Dear Alan, or Dear Mr Jones, should be signed off with Yours sincerely.

If you are writing an informal letter to a friend then you can pretty much sign it off with whatever you like ie yours truly, kind regards or whatever.

All the other replies..
jessica144, 6 yr 192 days ago
nice forum by the way, funny text with the essay game!
jessica144, 6 yr 191 days ago
thanks, the first one is more English right? not american? as i'm writing in europe.
Pia, 6 yr 186 days ago
yes it is.
hitchhiker  +  3496 Tue, 05 Aug 03 02:27 AM
Here's some more info on letter formation:

Writing to someone you don't know

cc, bcc (E-mail)

Letters asking for sponsorship
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Guest, 5 yr 289 days ago
when you're writing ' to whom it may concern' how do you sign off? faithfully? sincerely? etc?
Guest, 5 yr 205 days ago
well as you dont know then i assume its yours sincerely?
Guest, 5 yr 172 days ago
Has anyone ever heard of signing off a letter
"Kind regards,
Yours sincerely,"

Yes.....that is both of them. I have been told that it is a proper way of signing off if you want to be both slightly less formal (but not INformal), in the first instance, and remain professional, in the second instance.

Anyone?
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