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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.englishforums.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL General English Grammar Questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htm</link><description>Ask your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)</generator><item><title>Re: Two questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TwoQuestions/cmwpq/post.htm#228581</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 14:50:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:228581</guid><dc:creator>Ant_222</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TwoQuestions/cmwpq/post.htm#228581</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-228581.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Here is my, a non-native speaker's, understanding of the problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;#171;Correspondents say that Mr Sharma made the comments in response to opposition criticism that India had not protested against the "grossly unwarranted" statement from Rome. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it necessary to say India had not protested?&amp;#187;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please, read it carefully.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two actions:&lt;br /&gt;First: India refuses to protest.&lt;br /&gt;Second: Mr. Shrama makes the comments on the latter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second action took place after the first one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two additional examples which may help:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;#171;He is in the university now&amp;#187; — said I.&lt;br /&gt;But if someone was to retell my above words on the next day, he would say:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;#171;Anton said that Peter was in the university at that time.&amp;#187; — Here the Simple Past is used, because when my words were being retelled, they no longer were actual.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;#171;My car was made 18 years ago&amp;#187; — said I proudly.&lt;br /&gt;A year later:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;#171;Anton said that his car had been made 18 years ago.&amp;#187; — Past Perfect here indicates that it was correct one year ago, that the car was 18 years old. The use of Past Simple here would be incoerrect for sure, since the meaning would change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Sharma probably said something like that:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;#171;...India didn't protest...&amp;#187; — in Past Simple, because, by the moment of speech, India had missed the chance to protest: it was already too late too protest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, I think, Past Perfect above is necessary. If that sentence was in Past Simple, I would get it as though Mr. Shrama said: &amp;#171;...India does not protest...&amp;#187;, that is, it still could change her (India's) mind and announce the protest, at the time Mr. Sharama gave his comments.</description></item><item><title>Re: Two questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TwoQuestions/cmwkj/post.htm#228489</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 12:06:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:228489</guid><dc:creator>Marius Hancu</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TwoQuestions/cmwkj/post.htm#228489</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-228489.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
&lt;font color="#000000" size="1"&gt;Correspondents say that Mr Sharma made the comments in
response to opposition criticism that India had not protested against
the "grossly unwarranted" statement from Rome.
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&lt;font size="1"&gt;This is a past perfect sentence. Could you simply write the simple past instead of the past perfect tense?&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;
You could, but the sequence of tenses wouldn't be that clear. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;My interference in your religious domain within the
Vatican &lt;font color="#ff1493"&gt;will &lt;/font&gt;be unwelcome, uncalled for and &lt;font color="#ff1493"&gt;will&lt;/font&gt; be treated as
interference in your religious management and administration," the
letter said.&lt;br&gt;
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I would write &lt;u&gt;would&lt;/u&gt; in both cases. &lt;br&gt;

Other than that, nothing special. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;The pontiff criticised India for "disturbing signs of religious intolerance which have troubled some regions of India".
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;He specifically cited attempts by some Indian states to
introduce legislation to ban what right-wing Hindus call "forced
conversions".
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;India's foreign ministry has now reacted strongly to Monday's papal comments.
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;"India is a secular and democratic country, in which
adherents of all religious faiths enjoy equal rights," said Junior
Foreign Minister Anand Sharma.
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Interference&lt;/b&gt;
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;Correspondents say that Mr Sharma made the comments in
response to opposition criticism that India had not protested against
the "grossly unwarranted" statement from Rome.
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Rajnath Singh, the President of India's main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) wrote to the Pope on 20 May.
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;"My interference in your religious domain within the
Vatican will be unwelcome, uncalled for and will be treated as
interference in your religious management and administration," the
letter said.
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;Earlier this month, the state governor of India's
western state of Rajasthan refused to sign a contentious religious
freedom bill, which would have banned people from being co&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;nverted to religions "against their will".
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;Human rights agencies and minority groups also opposed the bill, saying it was introduced to appease radical Hindu groups.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;My first question is on the following sentnece of the above.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;font size="2"&gt;Correspondents say that Mr Sharma made the comments in
response to opposition criticism that India had not protested against
the "grossly unwarranted" statement from Rome.
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&lt;p&gt;Is it necessary to say India had not protested?&lt;br&gt;
This is a past perfect sentence. Could you simply write the simple past instead of the past perfect tense?&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The second question is on the following sentence of the above.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;My interference in your religious domain within the
Vatican will be unwelcome, uncalled for and will be treated as
interference in your religious management and administration," the
letter said.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it a sensible sentence?&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;My interference in your religious domain/activites ......&amp;nbsp; This is fine.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;For me the sentence is very awkward.&lt;br&gt;
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