http://www.englishforums.com/English/EslGeneralEnglishGrammar-Questions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here. <font color=red>DO NOT post paragraphs and compositions here. Post them in our <a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"><b>Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum</b></a>.</font>enXMOD (Build: 3616.28671)http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/2/cxnbk/Post.htm#239880Tue, 26 May 2009 16:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239880Marius Hancu0http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/2/cxnbk/Post.htm#239880http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239880.xmlGrammar Geek wrote: By the way, as a history lesson and not an English lesson, no one really did jump out the windows. It was just a rumor. Good to knowhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239879Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239879Marius Hancu1http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239879http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239879.xmlKhoff wrote: CJ - I would guess that Marius thought the author of the original quote was African-American (personally I would say Black) not only because he said "them" instead of "those" but because he refered to "rich white men." Well, in fact I used both in my guess. Somehow, just from what I read on the Web, I have the feeling the urban black people are still sticking to "them" more than the rural folks in general.http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239826Tue, 26 May 2009 16:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239826Grammar Geek2http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239826http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239826.xmlBy the way, as a history lesson and not an English lesson, no one really did jump out the windows. It was just a rumor.http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239813Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239813CalifJim3http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239813http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239813.xmlAh, yes! Now I get the connection. By the way, I've been told that Black is now passé, and African-American is the more accepted form. CJhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239805Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239805khoff4http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239805http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239805.xmlCJ - I would guess that Marius thought the author of the original quote was African-American (personally I would say Black) not only because he said "them" instead of "those" but because he refered to "rich white men."http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239724Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239724CalifJim5http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239724http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239724.xmlAfrican-American? No, no, no. People of all colors and ethnicities can be heard saying them for those by mistake. It used to be quite common among rural people in the U.S., possibly because they had little or no access to education. CJhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239624Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239624Marius Hancu6http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239624http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239624.xmlThis isn't an idiom, just an expresion. And btw: it's desperation started JUMPING OUT OF THE Wall Street windows THEM in this context is African-American speech/dialect, also used in South, I think; it seems that the author is an African-American.http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239623Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239623Clive7http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239623http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239623.xmlHi, I don't understand very well this idiom I have found. I know the meaning is that by d espe ration they threw themselves out of the windows of Wall Street, but I don't see it so clear: 'My brother was born the year the stock market crashed and all the rich white men started JUMPING OUT OF THEM Wall Street windows' A common grammatical error by some native speakers is to say 'them' instead of 'those', eg 'them cars' instead of 'those cars'. Thus, the phrase is really '. . . the year . . . all the rich white men started jumping out of those Wall Street windows'. It's not really an idiom here, because it describes what actually happened. Best wishes, Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239622Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239622Ant_2228http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htm#239622http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239622.xmlHe was born in the year the Great Depression came. Wall Street is the home of many financial institutions of the USA.http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htmMon, 26 Jan 2009 17:14:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239608Anonymous9http://www.englishforums.com/English/JumpingWallStreetWindows/cxnbk/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-239608.xmlHi. I don't understand very well this idiom I have found. I know the meaning is that by desesperation they threw themselves by the windows of Wall Street, but I don't see it so clear: 'My brother was born the year the stock market crashed and all the rich white men started JUMPING OUT OF THEM Wall Street windows' Thanks in advance, Jo.