http://www.englishforums.com/English/EslGeneralEnglishGrammar-Questions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here. <font color=red>DO NOT post paragraphs and compositions here. Post them in our <a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"><b>Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum</b></a>.</font>enXMOD (Build: 3614.32638)http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336866Sun, 24 May 2009 01:29:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336866Grammarian-bot0http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336866http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-336866.xmlFirst I would like to, once again, apprecite CJ and Clive for their genius. Guys you are the best in english. Actually I read this rule of observing a continuous verb on a website (the link is on my first post). But now I am clear that how to differentiate a continuous verb from a non continuous verb (I am living, he is lying etc). CalifJim wrote: So how come we use it in the present perfect tense? The use of the perfect tenses is not at issue here. It is the use of the continuous tenses that we are discussing! (Did you mean to say present perfect continuous ?) CJ No actually I ment present perfect tense. I said living is a non-continuous verb and should not be used with continuous verbs but now the problem is...http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336506Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:29:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336506CalifJim1http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336506http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-336506.xmlWell CJ don't you think that living is a non-continuous verb. No. Not at all. A non-continuous verb is a verb that cannot be used in the continuous tenses, for example, to know . In English we can't (correctly) say I am knowing, you are knowing, ..., I was knowing, ... I have been knowing, ... live is not a non-continuous verb. It can be used thus: I am living, you are living, ..., I was living, ... I have been living, ... Whether the action described by the verb can be observed is not a fool-proof way of discovering whether a verb is non-continuous or not. There is some correlation there, but the correlation does not hold up 100% of the time. So how come we use it in the present perfect tense? The use of...http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336500Sun, 24 May 2009 01:29:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336500Clive2http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336500http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-336500.xmlHi GB, You seem to be going down the wrong road here. 'The verb 'live' is used in continuous tenses very, very commonly. eg Google offers Results 1,270,000 for " I am living " . eg Results 1,280,000 for "<a href="http://www.google.ca/url?sa=X&amp;oi=dict&amp;q=http://www.answers.com/i%26r%3D67&amp;usg=__rZgQ2dHHhb_ru6s0xLBYX2Ygmow=" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.ca/url?sa=X&amp;oi=dict&amp;q=http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336483Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:29:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336483Grammarian-bot3http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336483http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-336483.xmlCalifJim wrote: 1. I have lived here since last year. 2. I have been living here since last year. Both of these mean almost exactly the same thing. Last year you started living here and you are still living here. The non-continuous form (1.) is a little more like a statement of a historical fact. The continuous form (2.) is a little more descriptive. I think I'd use the first in a job interview and the second in speaking with a friend, though there is no requirement to use either one in a specific social setting. CJ Well CJ don't you think that living is a non-continuous verb. I mean we can see someone talking, dancing, walking but living can bee seen just like verb to be. I think it is not continuous....http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336398Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:29:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336398CalifJim4http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336398http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-336398.xml1. I have lived here since last year. 2. I have been living here since last year. Both of these mean almost exactly the same thing. Last year you started living here and you are still living here. The non-continuous form (1.) is a little more like a statement of a historical fact. The continuous form (2.) is a little more descriptive. I think I'd use the first in a job interview and the second in speaking with a friend, though there is no requirement to use either one in a specific social setting. CJhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336323Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:29:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336323Grammarian-bot5http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336323http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-336323.xmlWhat is the difference in meaning between these two sentences? I can't undersatnd what "I have lived here since last year" means. Does it mean that I have been here for the last year and am still here too OR I have been living here for the last year and have stopped living here. CBhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336215Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:29:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336215Clive6http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htm#336215http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-336215.xmlHi, You can say things like I have lived here since last year. I have been living here since last year. Is that what you are asking about? Best wishes, Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htmSun, 24 May 2009 01:29:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336201Grammarian-bot7http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPresentPerfect-Continuous/vrhzj/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-336201.xmlBoth Present Perfect and Present Perfect Continuous are used to indicate duration from past until now. The only difference between the two is that the first one is used with continuous verb while the second one is used with non-continuous verbs. Then Why we can use pharases like last week, last month, last year, etc with the present perfect continuous and not with the present perfect. http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/presentperfect.html http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/presentperfectcontinuous.html GB