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&lt;font color=red&gt;DO NOT post paragraphs and compositions here.  Post them in our &lt;a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>XMOD (Build: 3614.32638)</generator><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/2/zjbkc/Post.htm#462765</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:37:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462765</guid><dc:creator>Astraea1709</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/2/zjbkc/Post.htm#462765</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462765.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>I never use 'me and...' because, to me, it sounds selfish to put myself in the first place. I always use 'he, you and I' ot 'you and I'. I've been thaught since I was very little to to always put 'I' last when speaking and I don't know hy that's a rpblem, and it shows respect.</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/2/zjbkc/Post.htm#462763</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462763</guid><dc:creator>Delmobile</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/2/zjbkc/Post.htm#462763</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462763.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Don't worry about your enthusiasm, I can take it in the right way  It's completely a question of context, of course. For example, at a conference with my child's teacher, I would never say, "Me and Gidget's daddy are really worried about her math grade." Or when asking for a zoning variance at a City Council meeting, say, "Me and the contractor have been trying very hard to comply with the architecture board's regulations." Oddly enough, I find it a useful way, in informal conversation, to put myself first. (The rule about always putting the other person first ("Janet and I") is inviolable unless you're using "me." I would never, never say "I and Janet" or worse, the low-sounding "myself and Janet.") Suppose I've had a conversation at...</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/2/zjbkc/Post.htm#462753</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462753</guid><dc:creator>Dido</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/2/zjbkc/Post.htm#462753</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462753.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Grammar Geek wrote:    
    Dido wrote:    The British Queen always says "My husband and I" and my British friends usually make jokes about it     
 Why is that funny? 

     
 They just laugh at her accent (My friends do not belong to the Royals</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462715</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462715</guid><dc:creator>Kooyeen</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462715</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462715.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Delmobile wrote:    GG, I am ashamed to admit that I say "me and..."  all the time  as a subject. It's not that I don't "know" better, it's just that in some contexts the right way sounds so stuffy to my ear.     Yeah! Whoo-hoo, you rock! I love you! Ok, sorry for my enthusiasm... that was too much, LOL  Seriously, I'm glad to read that someone says "me" as subject all the time and it does sound good to them... Because everytime I saw learners ask about it (me included), the use of "me" as subject was treated like it was the most odd and childish expression on earth, just used by unducated people. So I just couldn't understand why I was hearing that all the time.</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462646</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462646</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462646</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462646.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Delmobile wrote:     However, there is never any excuse for "between you and I."      
 Ugh!</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462519</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462519</guid><dc:creator>Delmobile</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462519</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462519.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>GG, I am ashamed to admit that I say "me and..." all the time as a subject. (Of course, I LIVE in Alabama.) It's not that I don't "know" better, it's just that in some contexts the right way sounds so stuffy to my ear.  However, there is never any excuse for "between you and I."</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462438</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462438</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462438</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462438.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Dido wrote:    The British Queen always says "My husband and I" and my British friends usually make jokes about it     
 Why is that funny?</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462404</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462404</guid><dc:creator>Rotter</dc:creator><slash:comments>7</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462404</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462404.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>In English and many other languages, you place the other party first. My wife and I are ... My girlfriend and I are ... My friend and I are ... You and I are idiots/intellectuals.  This is to pay some respect or rather give priority to the other party.</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462353</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462353</guid><dc:creator>Dido</dc:creator><slash:comments>8</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462353</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462353.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>The British Queen always says "My husband and I" and my British friends usually make jokes about it</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462344</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462344</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><slash:comments>9</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462344</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462344.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>I tried to post this earlier but I had access issues. Kooyeen is qutie correct, except that "Me and my friend are going" is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. Anyway, here are my thoughts: 
 It can be correct to say either "my friend and I" or "my friend and me" depending on whether you and your friend are the subjects of the sentence or the objects. 
 My friend and I are going to the mall. 
 He invited both my friend and me. 
 By convention, we put the other person first, but there is nothing wrong with saying "He invited both me and my friend." 
 If you say "I and my friend are going to the mall" it will sound off to most natives.</description></item><item><title>Re: I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462323</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462323</guid><dc:creator>Kooyeen</dc:creator><slash:comments>10</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm#462323</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462323.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>It's ok to use "me" first when it's an object of a verb: They hit me and my friend with a baseball bat. (or ...hit my friend and me with...) When it's the subject, some people don't accept it and say it's odd. In ESL tests it would be considered a mistake too. However, some people find nothing wrong with it, and you can hear it in everyday English: Me and my friend were going to Alabama, and... (but: My friend and me were... is not common) My friend and I were going to Alabama, and... (but: I and my friend were... is not common) That's what I think and how I use "me".</description></item><item><title>I and Me</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm</link><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:37:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462283</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>11</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IAndMe/zjbkc/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-462283.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hi, 
 Is is correct English to say "me and my friend" or "my friend and I". When, if ever, do we use "me" first?</description></item></channel></rss>