ESL General English Grammar Questions

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Hoa Thai — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:34:03 GMT

Hi,

I have seen 'night-call' used for nurses who are on call for night shifts (e.g., night-call nurses). Ref: http://careercenter.nejmjobs.org/jobdetail.cfm?job=2783117. Therefore, I would say: "Mr A , Mr B, and I are to be on night call this week" OR "Mr A , Mr B, and I will cover the night call duty this week."

If I were Van, I would use 'day-call' anyway to contrast the two groups:

1. Schedule for day-call coverage:
Date Name Contact #

2. Schedule for night-call coverage:
Date Name Contact #

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Avangi — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:40:25 GMT

Tuongvan wrote:

Hi Avangi,

My director assigns a number of employees to be on call at night and a number of employees to be on call in the daytime . He asks me to post this infomation on the noticeboard . I don't know whether I'm right or wromg when I write as below: Is this for a job or for an English assignment? Is the blue section to be corrected? (Actually, it's pretty good!)

1/Schedule of people on daytime call

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324
â¦â¦

2/Schedule of people on nighttime call

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324

â¦â¦
In your opinion , how should I write to sound better ?

By the way, can I say : Mr A , Mr B and I are to go on nighttime call this week ?   I don't know why not, but of course I've never heard it. I think I would say, "will be on call this week for the night shift."

Thanks in advance

Daytime Schedule Nighttime Schedule

Date On-Call Person Contact Number Date On-Call Person Contact Number

Regards, - A.

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Avangi — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:13:50 GMT

Hi Van,

I was hoping to find some samples of the kind of thing you're doing. No luck so far. The only hyphenated "on-calls" I find as nouns are part of promotional titles of web sites or company trademarks.

It does seem to be widely used in the medical profession as an adjective. I find "on-call medical conditions," and "the on-call physician." But then they usually say, "The physician is required to be on call" without the hyphen. In other words, it's generally used with the hyphen only when it directly precedes the noun it modifies.

I found one exception, but it looks like an oversight: Physicians are not considered on call just because they are visiting their own patients. Physicians are not required to be on-call for their specialty if they are not on the hospital's on-call list.

Does your assignment include anything to indicate what kind of people these are? Perhaps we could just say, "On-Call Person"

- A.

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:53:39 GMT

Hi Van,

You original translation sounds fine to me. I would use "on-call" instead of "on - call." Also, I would write "Schedule for daytime on-call people" and "Schedule for nighttime on-call people."

By the way, this is another observation I have. It sounds too formal when you write "Please kindly correct..." In most cases, "Please correct..." would be sufficient.

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Tuongvan — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:28:34 GMT

Thank you Avangi ,

You can help me later . I 'll be waiting for your help

Your help would be highly appreciated.

Best wishes

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Avangi — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:26:27 GMT

Hi Tuongvan,

I only have time for a quick reply - sorry. What you've written would be clearly understood. I'm not sure if it fits the model of current practice. I'll try again later.

Best wishes, - A.

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Tuongvan — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:06:29 GMT

Hi Avangi,

My director assigns a number of employees to be on call at night and a number of employees to be on call in the daytime . He asks me to post this infomation on the noticeboard . I don't know whether I'm right or wromg when I write as below:

1/Schedule of people on daytime call

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324
â¦â¦

2/Schedule of people on nighttime call

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324

â¦â¦
In your opinion , how should I write to sound better ?

By the way, can I say : Mr A , Mr B and I are to go on nighttime call this week ?

Thanks in advance

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:50:37 GMT

Hi Avangi ,

In my company the director wants to assign a number of employees to be on call in the daytime and a number of employees to be on call at night .He asks me to post this information on the noticeboard, but I don't know whether I'm correct or not when I write as below :

1/Schedule of people on daytime call

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324

2/Schedule of people on nighttime call

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324

In your opinion how should I write so as to sound better?

By the way , can I say :Mr .A , Mr B and I are to go on nighttime /daytime call this week ?

Thanks in advance

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Avangi — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:24:44 GMT

This is fine by me. I would like to see some actual examples where the hyphenated construction is used. (I don't think signs and notices follow the same rules as sentences.)

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Tuongvan — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:03:10 GMT

Hi Avangi ,

Can I write like this on the noticeboard ?Please kindly correct it for me:

1/Schedule of people on daytime call

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324
Feb 4        Ms. C              3249839845

2/Schedule of people on nighttime call

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324
Feb 4        Ms. C              3249839845

Thanks in advance

Re: Schedule of on cal at night ?

Avangi — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:00:46 GMT

Hi Van,

This is one of those cases where an industry has invented a noun for a special purpose (on-call) and they'll have to be the ones to decide how it should be used.

Just a few observations: if it's going to be a hyphenated word I suggest you not use spaces (on -calls/on- calls). Sometimes the plural of a special word is rendered with an apostrophe (on-call's). I'm not sure who would make that decision in this case.

There might be a small logic problem in your 2/. The title suggests a different schedule for nighttime on-call's and daytime on-call's, but the schedule itself lacks that information.

Regards, - A.

Schedule of on cal at night ?

Tuongvan — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:07:47 GMT

Please kindly correct my translation below :

1/The director asked his secretary to post the schedule of on -calls at night and on- calls in the day on the noticeboard so that all employees know to carry out their respective assignment.

2/ Schedule of people to be on call at night and in the day

Date        On-Call          Contact Number
Feb 2       Mr. A                123456
Feb 3        Mr. B               234897324
Feb 4        Ms. C              3249839845

Thanks in advance