http://www.englishforums.com/English/EslGeneralEnglishGrammar-Questions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here. <font color=red>DO NOT post paragraphs and compositions here. Post them in our <a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"><b>Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum</b></a>.</font>enXMOD (Build: 3607.32596)http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472990Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:51:06 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:472990Yankee0http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472990http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-472990.xmlI'm also still trying to make sense of the use of ' should leave there at once ' in combination with ' they, you and we '. Without any justifying context, the word 'there' only makes the sentence sound even odder to me.http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472984Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:51:06 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:472984Kooyeen1http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472984http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-472984.xmlHi, I don't think there's a rule for that... a rule that makes sense, at least. Teo wrote: I, he and you will be punished for being late. They, you and we should leave there at once. I rellay don't like those examples, and I have no idea how native speakers would say the same thing. I think I would say one of these, but don't ask me why: We'll all be punished for that. Me, you, and him will be punished for that. He, you, and I will be punished for that. And maybe also this... You, him, and I will be punished for that. If anyone knows something better that people actually use and not "think they should use", let me know...http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472978Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:51:06 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:472978Clive2http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472978http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-472978.xmlHi, I, he and you will be punished for being late. They, you and we should leave there at once. I would say that native speakers would tend to avoid such awkward remarks, by saying simpler things like this. We will all be punished for being late. Everybody should leave there at once. Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472977Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:51:06 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:472977Yankee3http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472977http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-472977.xmlTeo wrote: These are not grammar rules but conventions of usage. Teo wrote: For example, I, he and you will be punished for being late. They, you and we should leave there at once. Let's put it this way, Teo: Those two sentences don't sound the least bit "conventional" to me.http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472973Sat, 23 May 2009 01:51:06 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:472973Teo4http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472973http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-472973.xmlhttp://www.englishclub.com/esl-forums/viewtopic.php?f=199&amp;t=48145&amp;sid=8860c21cc3f2b8e1741b475f89b790d0&amp;p=341919#p341919 These are not grammar rules but conventions of usage. You would probably do well to follow them, but you will not be grammatically 'incorrect' if you do not.http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472702Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:51:06 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:472702Clive5http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htm#472702http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-472702.xmlHi, I've never heard of this rule. It sounds odd to me. Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htmMon, 23 Feb 2009 02:51:06 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:472679Teo6http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalPronouns/zldjl/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-472679.xmlThe normal sequence of personal pronouns is as follows: singular: ; plural However, according to Treasury of English Grammar, when we want to express something unpleasant, the sequence of personal pronouns is as follows: singular ; plural For example, I, he and you will be punished for being late. They, you and we should leave there at once. Can any native speaker tell me whether the above rules are true or not?