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Post them in our <a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"><b>Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum</b></a>.</font>enXMOD (Build: 3614.32638)http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/2/zpmlc/Post.htm#927915Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:33:18 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:927915Anonymous0http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/2/zpmlc/Post.htm#927915http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-927915.xmlFirst of all --&gt; There should not be any quotation marks around the title of a play, book, newspaper, work of art, etc. Remove the quotation marks and put Oklahoma! into italics . http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/italics.htm Now, with the quotation marks removed, here&#39;s what you should have: Newtown Arts Company will present Rogers and Hammerstein&#39;s classic musical Oklahoma ! , the second show in its 2008 season.http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/2/zpmlc/Post.htm#613387Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:613387Grammar Geek1http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/2/zpmlc/Post.htm#613387http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-613387.xmlI&#39;d probably write &quot;Have you ever seen the musical &#39;Oklahoma!&#39;?&quot;http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#613298Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:613298Anonymous2http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#613298http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-613298.xmlOK. I have a title that contains an exclamation point, e.g., Oklahoma!, it comes at the end of a question. Do I add the question mark at the end of the sentence, or treat the title as if it is a quotation and leave the question mark off, ending the sentence with the exclamation point of the title (within the quotation marks)?http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#495047Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:495047RegCor3http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#495047http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-495047.xmlThe whole situation is very confusing, and yes, in the office, we try to rewrite it to avoid the question mark/comma/quotation composition. But there has to be an answer. Being raised with the &quot;comma always goes on the inside on a quotation mark,&quot; putting one outside looks jarring. However, thank you, everyone, for your help!http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#495016Sun, 24 May 2009 05:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:495016Grammar Geek4http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#495016http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-495016.xmlI just looked this up in the AP Stylebook. Their style is to omit the comma if the quoated material ends with a ! or ? I&#39;m not sure that this entirely logical, and U.S. style, despite being illogical, is so firmly fixed with the comma inside the quote that I can&#39;t advocate for putting it after. Can you just rewrite to avoid the need for it? ... &quot;Oklahoma!&quot; as the second... You can always use dashes if you ened to set off an entire section with commas.http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494980Sun, 24 May 2009 05:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494980RegCor5http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494980http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-494980.xmlSo I have two votes for &quot;Oklahoma !&quot;, - thanks, guys! It&#39;s much appreciated!http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494976Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494976RayH6http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494976http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-494976.xmlI guess I&#39;m inclined to treat the punctuation as just another character. I&#39;m even more inclined to adopt the BrE method, at which point the whole question becomes moot. Thus, using the BrE method, &quot;Oklahoma!&quot;, the classic musical by Rodgers and Hammerstein, will... No muss, no fuss.http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494973Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494973CalifJim7http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494973http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-494973.xmlIf you&#39;re writing informally for yourself and friends, use your own judgment. If you&#39;re writing for a specific publication, use the style manual they recommend. Often the answer is different depending on where your article is published. My personal preference is ... musical &quot;Oklahoma!&quot;, the second show ... CJhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494967Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494967RegCor8http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494967http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-494967.xmlHi Ray, Thanks for your help, however, I was wondering if there should be a comma when you have the title of a play (or book, or movie, etc.) with punctuation (like a question mark of exclamation mark) as part of the actual title. If I wanted to say - &quot;Oklahoma!&quot; the classic musical by Rodgers and Hammerstein, will be performed on stage next week - would there be a comma between the exclamation point and quotation mark as normally there would be one. I&#39;m sorry if I&#39;m not explaining this well! It&#39;s rather complicated to verbalize. Thanks!http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494963Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494963RayH9http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htm#494963http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-494963.xmlPlease note that American English likes to place the final punctuation mark inside a title or quotation, even though it doesn&#39;t form part of it. The British regard this practice as illogical. AmE: He&#39;s always wanted to read &quot;Moby Dick , &quot; &quot;Oliver Twist&quot; and &quot;The Great Gatsby . &quot; BrE : He&#39;s always wanted to read &quot;Moby Dick&quot; , &quot;Oliver Twist&quot; and &quot;The Great Gatsby&quot; . Here is the link to the site this came from if you want to check it yourself. The relevant section is near the bottom of the screen under the heading &quot;quotation marks&quot;. HTH http://www.davidappleyard.com/english/punctuation.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htmTue, 24 Mar 2009 06:45:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494957RegCor10http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheQuestionMarkCommaQuotationMark-Debacle/zpmlc/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-494957.xmlMy colleague and I have been wondering about this for a while...If you&#39;re referring to a title with a question mark or exclamation mark, which typically requires quotation marks around it, should you use a comma along with exclamation mark and quotation mark when continuing the sentence? For example, should it be: Newtown Arts Company will present Rogers and Hammerstein&#39;s classic musical “Oklahoma ! , ” the second show in its 2008 season. OR: Newtown Arts Company will present Rogers and Hammerstein&#39;s classic musical “Oklahoma !” the second show in its 2008 season. Any help would be greatly appreciated!