ESL General English Grammar Questions

ESL General English Grammar Questionshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/EslGeneralEnglishGrammar-Questions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here. <font color=red>DO NOT post paragraphs and compositions here. Post them in our <a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"><b>Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum</b></a>.</font>enXMOD (Build: 3614.32638)Re: different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#499178Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:499178New2grammar0http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#499178http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-499178.xmlI'm not a very observant person but yes, I've seen that signature of his and thought he was still using it. Thanks Avangi!Re: different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#499177Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:499177Avangi1http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#499177http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-499177.xmlYour explanation of "see through etc." is accurate. It's better to use "someone's eyes," rather than "one's eyes." "One" is a special case. It's as close as active voice comes to being passive voice. Public transportation may be used as a way of saving gas. People may use public transportation as a way of saving gas. One may use public transportation as a way of saving gas. "One" is nobody and everybody. With the image we're discussing, we have to make clear that there's a person A and a person B. When you say, "to see through one's eyes," you're only talking about one person. "Try to see this situation through someone else's eyes...Re: different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#499039Sat, 23 May 2009 18:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:499039New2grammar2http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#499039http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-499039.xmlThank you so much for the wonderful insight into what native speakers think of them.Now, I understand why you find them odd. I wish I could find the CNN article that used this sentence and see if he was being sadistic. Well, it might not mean anything because he could be a non English speaker. I'm really glad to be able to see these sentences through a native speaker's eyes. One quick question. Maybe I should start a new thread. I'll ask here and if you think it's going to be a long thread or something, I can start a new one. Do you say "see through one's eyes" to mean you understand something from someone's perspective ?( I don't even know what I'm saying here makes any sense I find it...Re: different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#499014Sat, 23 May 2009 18:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:499014Avangi3http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#499014http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-499014.xmlHi N2g, I try to make my replies unintimidating, but sometimes I get careless. No worries on my account. I enjoy trying to figure these things out. I know this avoids your question, but your interviewer and his audience (or readers) are going to be more puzzled than I was. Why be so circular? I'd be more direct. (We probably have different upbringings.) "We think we have a winner here. We believe with the right rider we can set some new world records, and that's what we're shooting for." BTW, we say, "I would like to break the record - break a record - break a few records." "This will be a record breaker." "We expect to do some record breaking." None of your three examples make...Re: different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#498891Sat, 23 May 2009 18:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498891New2grammar4http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#498891http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-498891.xmlThanks Avangi. I'm sorry for not being clear. Sometimes I thought I was clear but it turns out that my English confuses people. I should have presented a context and that would have cleared up what I want. Here it's Let's say I'm a bicycle designer and I just built, what I think, the world's faster and lightest bike. In an interview, I am asked, What do I hope to achieve with my invention? and should I say, "I'm always happy for world records to be broken" or "I'm always happy that world records are broken" or "I'm always happy when world records are broken" As I said before and you don't think so, 'for' indicates the cause for happiness, therefore, the cause...Re: different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#498755Sat, 23 May 2009 18:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498755Avangi5http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#498755http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-498755.xmlHi N2g, I'm sure you don't mean, "We'd be happy to see this record broken." We must be "thinking about" specific records, since there'll never be a present or future time when no world records have been broken. Or do you wish to call attention to the fact that the breaking of a record occurs only at one point in time? Perhaps you have a scenario in mind which would make this all clear. Are you asking us to read between the lines?: Are we possibly unhappy about a new record which was set under questionable circumstances, and we don't want to say so directly? So we say sarcastically that "anyone would/should be happy for the person who sets a new record" ? I think in this case...Re: different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#498660Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498660New2grammar6http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#498660http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-498660.xmlI have to say I'm a bit surprised. I wonder what native speakers would say assuming there are no records broken at the time of speech. My take is: We're happy whenever world records are broken Are there any better suggestions?Re: different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#498656Sat, 23 May 2009 18:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498656Avangi7http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htm#498656http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-498656.xmlI think, " when world records are broken," would mean broken at the time of the speech. Most people would take 1 & 2 to mean that as well, but I don't think it does. In my opinion, 1 is closer than 2 in that respect.different meaningshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htmThu, 23 Apr 2009 18:35:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498641New2grammar8http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferentMeanings/zqwgx/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-498641.xml1. We're always happy for world records to be broken. 2. We're always happy that world records are broken. Does 2 suggest that world records have been broken at the time of the speech which is not the case in 1 that simply suggest record breaking make them happy? Thanks!