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Post them in our <a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"><b>Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum</b></a>.</font>enXMOD (Build: 3614.32638)http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#584713Sun, 24 May 2009 09:51:26 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:584713AlpheccaStars0http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#584713http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-584713.xmlThis link gives good examples of punctuation and lists of connecting words http://www.rscc.cc.tn.us/owl&amp;writingcenter/OWL/Connect.html It does have some advice on &quot;whereas&quot; Avoid archaic transitional phrases , such as &quot;hitherto,&quot; &quot;whereof,&quot; &quot;whereby,&quot; and &quot;whereas.&quot;http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#584682Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:51:26 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:584682Anonymous1http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#584682http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-584682.xmlThis conversation is long over, but the information in it isn&#39;t entirely correct. Semicolons can be used with conjunctive adverbs (which are not standard conjunctions) to link two independent clauses. A quick Internet search brought me to South Dakota State&#39;s recommended comments. http://www.sdstate.edu/writingcenter/conjunctions_and_conjunctive_adv1.htm I&#39;m copying them below: 2. Conjunctive Adverbs (= Coordinating Adverbs): Technically, conjunctive adverbs are not connecting words: they are transition words. As a result they can occur at the beginning, in the middle, or at the end of either the second of the two clauses in a compound sentence or in the second of two related sentences. If they are used in a compound...http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#505466Sun, 24 May 2009 09:51:26 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505466Clive2http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#505466http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-505466.xmlHi, I think you said the following do not need a conjunction because a semicolon establishes the connection. She loved him with all her heart; she never told him. sounds OK I took out the garbage; it was smelly. sounds stupid. Can I write like these for those two examples of yours? Yes. She loved him with all her heart; however, she never told him that. I took out the garbage; as a result, the house is free from foul smells. If I follow your explanations, &#39;however&#39; and &#39;as a reult&#39; would be unnecessary since a semicolon is providing the connection. Am I right? Generally speaking, yes, although the conjunction clarifies the nature of the connection, while a semi-colon by itself leaves the reader...http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#505167Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:51:27 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505167Anonymous3http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#505167http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-505167.xmlThank you, Clive. I think you said the following do not need a conjunction because a semicolon establishes the connection. She loved him with all her heart; she never told him. sounds OK I took out the garbage; it was smelly. sounds stupid. Can I write like these for those two examples of yours? She loved him with all her heart; however, she never told him that. I took out the garbage; as a result, the house is free from foul smells. If I follow your explanations, &#39;however&#39; and &#39;as a reult&#39; would be unnecessary since a semicolon is providing the connection. Am I right? Also, the four words that you said is not conjunctions are from a list of conjunctive adverbs and I believe those words as many...http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#505121Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:51:27 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505121Clive4http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htm#505121http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-505121.xmlHi, Usually a semicolon is used to with two independent clauses when a conjunctive adverb is used. I don&#39;t agree. A semi-colon joins two independent clauses. eg correct Tom loved Mary; Mary did not love Tom. eg i ncorrect Tom loved Mary; whereas Mary did not love Tom. &#39;Whereas Mary did not love Tom&#39; is not an independent clause, because it can&#39;t stand as a sentence by itself. If you use a conjunction, you don&#39;t need a semi-colon, because the conjunction itself supplies the connection. Good. But I feel the two independent clauses can be independent in structure but cannot be independent in thought linkage -- that is, they have to related in thoughta and ideas. Am I right? I think I am right because I...http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htmSat, 24 Jan 2009 10:51:27 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505101Anonymous5http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnmx/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-505101.xmlHi, Usually a semicolon is used to with two independent clauses when a conjunctive adverb is used. Good. But I feel the two independent clauses can be independent in structure but cannot be independent in thought linkage -- that is, they have to related in thoughta and ideas. Am I right? I think I am right because I found some online references supporting it. What is confusing is when what looks to be two independent clauses in structure is connected by a comma, rather than a semicolon. The average bamboo floor costs about $5 to $7 a square foot, not including installation , whereas walnut or pine can cost nearly $10 a square foot . I feel that the color part can be said to be an independent-in-structure clause, but I could...