ESL General English Grammar Questions

Re: Fell or fallen

Yoong Liat — Thu, 15 May 2008 13:32:56 GMT

Creativeguru

Thanks Yoong Liat for clarifying

Thanks, Yoong Liat, for clarifying. (Just to let you know that there should be a comma after 'Thanks' and one after 'Liat')

Best wishes

Re: Fell or fallen

Creativeguru — Sun, 11 May 2008 10:05:26 GMT

Thanks Yoong Liat for clarifying

Re: Fell or fallen

Yoong Liat — Sun, 11 May 2008 08:32:25 GMT

Creativeguru

'The woodcutter has felled the tree.'

I think it should be fallen instead of felled.

It should `felledl`, which means `chopped down`; `fallen` relates to `fallen down`.

Re: Fell or fallen

Grammar Geek — Fri, 09 May 2008 22:09:17 GMT

Guys, don't get excited about this. I don't think I have EVER had a need to use "fell" as in the "the wood cutter felled the tree" in my entire existence.

Worry about the:

I fall down a lot.

I fell down the stairs yesterday.

I have fallen on this slippery spot in the past, so be careful!

version.

If you ever need to talk about the wood cutter, just say he "chopped down" or "cut down" the tree!

Re: Fell or fallen

26TMNTJG2PG — Fri, 09 May 2008 11:48:40 GMT

To solve the problem, one has to understand tenses and voices (active and passive) apart from having a good vocabulary. I have come across an article titled TENSES which, if digested properly, should provide some help.

Re: Fell or fallen

New2grammar — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:59:56 GMT

Oh no! I wasn't aware of the second set "fell felled fellen"? I think I heard of them when I was a kid and today is the first time in years.

What's the difference between the first and the second?

Re: Fell or fallen

Creativeguru — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:55:27 GMT

Thanks Yoong Lait for such a wonderful explanation.

Kindly correct me if I am wrong in the last sentence of the examples you provided

'The woodcutter has felled the tree.'

I think it should be fallen instead of felled.

Re: Fell or fallen

New2grammar — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:53:28 GMT

I have to say I'm shocked to hear that. Your command of English is pretty good yet you've never learned that? No offense. I guess we have very different education systems.

Try to search the forum for them. You should get hundreds of threads on this topic.

Re: Fell or fallen

Yoong Liat — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:50:42 GMT

Creativeguru

I usually get confused when to use fell and fallen in the sentence kindly if someone can clear my doubt regarding this

fall fell fallen

fell felled felled

I often fall down. (present)

I often fell down when I was a child. (past)

I've fallen down. (now or some time ago)

A woodcutter fells trees for a living. (present)

The woodcutter felled the tree. (past)

The woodcutter has felled the tree. (now or some time ago)

Re: Fell or fallen

Creativeguru — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:46:59 GMT

Do you know that fallen is the past participle of fall and fell is the past tense?>>No

Can you eleborate on it or give me references and what is basic difference between past tense and past participle?

Re: Fell or fallen

New2grammar — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:38:57 GMT

Do you know that fallen is the past participle of fall and fell is the past tense?

He fell down the stairs yesterday. Look at his poor leg in the cast.

Due to the sex scandal, the NewYork senator who used to be popular because of his efforts in cracking down on prostitution rings is now a fallen star.

Fell or fallen

Creativeguru — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:24:42 GMT

I usually get confused when to use fell and fallen in the sentence kindly if someone can clear my doubt regarding this