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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.englishforums.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL General English Grammar Questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htm</link><description>Ask your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)</generator><item><title>Re:  make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/4/gvgdn/Post.htm#522576</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:17:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:522576</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/4/gvgdn/Post.htm#522576</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-522576.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you very much, Clive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gvznk/Post.htm#522454</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:16:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:522454</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gvznk/Post.htm#522454</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-522454.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No. It means the house collapsed some time after the earthquake finished.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clive&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gvznz/Post.htm#522449</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:45:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:522449</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gvznz/Post.htm#522449</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-522449.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Clive,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you very much for your explanation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can I say &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The earthquake&amp;nbsp;left the house to collapse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does it mean the same as &amp;#39;the earthquake caused the house to collapse&amp;#39;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gvzlx/Post.htm#522424</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:52:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:522424</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gvzlx/Post.htm#522424</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-522424.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;The earthquake&amp;nbsp;caused the house to collapse.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt; The house is down on the ground in ruins.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Can I use &amp;#39;leave&amp;#39; instead of &amp;#39;cause&amp;#39; here as in&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;The earthquake left the house&amp;nbsp;collapsing. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Sounds like the house is &lt;u&gt;in the process of&lt;/u&gt; collapsing, ie it&amp;#39;s not yet completely down on the ground in ruins.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Clive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gvzlc/Post.htm#522412</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:22:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:522412</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gvzlc/Post.htm#522412</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-522412.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Clive,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The earthquake&amp;nbsp;caused the house to collapse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can I use &amp;#39;leave&amp;#39; instead of &amp;#39;cause&amp;#39; here as in&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The earthquake left the house&amp;nbsp;collapsing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gdvgj/Post.htm#517132</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 11:28:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:517132</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gdvgj/Post.htm#517132</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-517132.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree that it&amp;#39;s OK to say &amp;#39;The wave sank the ship&amp;#39;, but&amp;nbsp;the whole idea of&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;The flood sank the building into the ground&amp;quot; sounds odd. I can envisage a ship sinking very easily, but please explain what happened to the building in more detail so that I can picture it in my mind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gdvdg/Post.htm#517078</link><pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 10:23:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:517078</guid><dc:creator>MarvinTheMartian</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gdvdg/Post.htm#517078</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-517078.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Are you sure? The following example is taken from the Oxford Dictionary of English: &amp;quot;A freak wave sank their boat near the shore.&amp;quot; Unless the author meant to&amp;nbsp;depict the wave as a character with a will of its own, I see no difference between my example and the dictionary&amp;#39;s. Why then can&amp;#39;t I say &amp;quot;the flood sank the bulding into the ground&amp;quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks in advance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gcqxk/Post.htm#515824</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:44:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515824</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>7</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gcqxk/Post.htm#515824</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515824.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000080"&gt;I have a question regarding this. Is there a difference between saying &amp;quot;the flood made the building sink into the ground&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the flood sank the building into the ground&amp;quot;? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Only the former sounds natural. To my mind, the latter almost makes it sound like the flood intended to do that.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000080"&gt;Likewise, is it better to say &amp;quot;he melted the icicle in his hand&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;he made the icicle melt in his hand&amp;quot;, or are both sentences equally correct? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Both are OK. Both suggest that he had intention.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000080"&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gcqdz/Post.htm#515632</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 14:12:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515632</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>8</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gcqdz/Post.htm#515632</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515632.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Clive,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you so much for your answer and all&amp;nbsp; your help!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gcpjb/Post.htm#515441</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 06:25:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515441</guid><dc:creator>MarvinTheMartian</dc:creator><slash:comments>9</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/3/gcpjb/Post.htm#515441</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515441.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Clive, I have a question regarding this. Is there a difference between saying &amp;quot;the flood made the building sink into the ground&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;the flood sank the building into the ground&amp;quot;? Likewise, is it better to say &amp;quot;he melted the icicle in his hand&amp;quot; than &amp;quot;he made the icicle melt in his hand&amp;quot;, or are both sentences equally correct?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcpwd/Post.htm#515426</link><pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 04:38:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515426</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>10</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcpwd/Post.htm#515426</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515426.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Do you mean it is better to say &amp;#39;the flood made the building sink into the ground rather than &amp;#39;the flood made the building sink&amp;#39;?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt; Yes.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;quot;The flood made the building subside&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;The flood made the building sink into the ground&amp;#39; are interchangeable? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;#1 sounds better than #2, but I think I&amp;#39;d probably say &amp;#39;The flood undermined the building&amp;#39;. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope you understand that if the water just rises around the house. it doesn&amp;#39;t mean that the house sinks into the ground. When the water goes down, the house will still be in the same position (unless the water softens the ground and damages the foundations of the house. Even then, the house might just collapse.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes, Clive &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcpcb/Post.htm#515322</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:51:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515322</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>11</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcpcb/Post.htm#515322</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515322.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Clive,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you mean it is better to say &amp;#39;the flood made the building sink into the ground rather than &amp;#39;the flood made the building sink&amp;#39;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;The flood made the building subside&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;The flood made the building sink into the ground&amp;#39; are interchangeable?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you very much for your great help.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcpbz/Post.htm#515309</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:18:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515309</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>12</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcpbz/Post.htm#515309</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515309.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sink&amp;#39; tends to suggest &amp;#39;into water&amp;#39;.&amp;nbsp;I&amp;#39;d say &amp;#39;sink &lt;u&gt;into the ground&amp;#39;&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcprx/Post.htm#515301</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 19:38:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515301</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>13</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcprx/Post.htm#515301</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515301.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Clive, many thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;According to your answer, it seems that there is no difference between &amp;#39;subside&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;sink&amp;#39; in meaning in the example&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The flood made the building sink/subside.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did I say that right or is there any subtle difference?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   make somthing +V</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcxqz/Post.htm#515275</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:21:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515275</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>14</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MakeSomthingV/2/gcxqz/Post.htm#515275</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515275.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not necessarily. Maybe, maybe not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clive&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>