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&lt;font color=red&gt;DO NOT post paragraphs and compositions here.  Post them in our &lt;a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>XMOD (Build: 3615.39139)</generator><item><title>Re: the same as</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheSameAs/gcnjp/post.htm#515031</link><pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:36:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515031</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheSameAs/gcnjp/post.htm#515031</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515031.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hi again, 
 As for these answers of yours: 
 The spoons I used at dinner are the same as (the spoons used by Jill ) Jill&amp;#39;s (at dinner).  OK 
  I have the same book as (the book) Jane   /or Jane&amp;#39;s???  (has)  Here, the sentence is equating &amp;#39;I&amp;#39; to &amp;#39;Jane&amp;#39;. Consider that &amp;#39;I&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;Jane&amp;#39; are the subjects of the two clauses. 
 Are you saying no. 1 can use both &amp;#39;Jill&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;Jill&amp;#39;s&amp;#39;? No.   The spoons I used at dinner are the same as Jill&amp;#39;s (spoons).  The sentence is equating spoons to spoons. &amp;#39;Spoons are the subject in both parts of the statement. 
 The spoons I used at dinner are the same as (the spoons used) by Jill (at dinner) -- See &amp;#39;are the same as by Jill&amp;#39; is not...</description></item><item><title>Re: the same as</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheSameAs/gcnjp/post.htm#515028</link><pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:36:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515028</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheSameAs/gcnjp/post.htm#515028</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-515028.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Thank you. 
 As for these answers of yours: 
 The spoons I used at dinner are the same as (the spoons used by Jill ) Jill&amp;#39;s (at dinner).  OK 
  I have the same book as (the book) Jane   /or Jane&amp;#39;s???  (has) 
 Are you saying no. 1 can use both &amp;#39;Jill&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;Jill&amp;#39;s&amp;#39;? 
 The spoons I used at dinner are the same as (the spoons used) by Jill (at dinner) -- See &amp;#39;are the same as by Jill&amp;#39; is not good. 
 As to no. 2, which is correct? 
 I have the same book as (the book) Jane (has) 
 I have the same book as Jane&amp;#39;s -- Although I couldn&amp;#39;t construct a full sentence, I feel this is how people very often speak in everyday situations.</description></item><item><title>Re: the same as</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheSameAs/gcnjp/post.htm#514884</link><pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:36:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:514884</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheSameAs/gcnjp/post.htm#514884</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-514884.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hi, 
 I think Clive told me something to the effect that you need to make a full sentence in order for me to make a proper construction.  Yes, the  idea was to look at the long sentence in order to see how to make the short one correctly.  
 Did I do these right?  
 My birthday is the same as Jill&amp;#39;s (is)  OK 
 The date for the meeting is the same as last month&amp;#39;s (date).  OK 
 The spoons I used are the same as the ones used when I was eating dinner the day before  OK, but long. 
 The spoons I used at dinner are the same as (the spoons used by Jill ) Jill&amp;#39;s (at dinner).  OK 
  I have the same book as (the book) Jane   /or Jane&amp;#39;s???  (has) 
 The words in parentheses are those ones I used to construct full sentences...</description></item><item><title>the same as</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheSameAs/gcnjp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 02:36:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:514877</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheSameAs/gcnjp/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-514877.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hi, 
 I think Clive told me something to the effect that you need to make a full sentence in order for me to make a proper construction. Did I do these right? 
 My birthday is the same as Jill&amp;#39;s (is) 
 The date for the meeting is the same as last month&amp;#39;s (date). 
 The spoons I used are the same as the ones used when I was eating dinner the day before. 
 The spoons I used at dinner are the same as (the spoons used by) Jill&amp;#39;s (at dinner). 
 I have the same book as (the book) Jane /or Jane&amp;#39;s??? (has) 
 The words in parentheses are those ones I used to construct full sentences but those do not seem be right.</description></item></channel></rss>