ESL General English Grammar Questions

Re: gas and oil prices

siva-gobi — Thu, 22 May 2008 21:26:09 GMT

Gas or Gasoline prudect from crude oil. when the writer wrote that paragraph he maybe mean crude oil

Re: gas and oil prices

CalifJim — Thu, 22 May 2008 21:13:35 GMT

New2grammar
Everything is rising these days except for my salary.

Join the club.

Re: gas and oil prices

optilang — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:44:39 GMT

I just found the full article, and from the end of the first paragraph it is clear that the writer is referring to Gasoline and Crude Oil prices. Sorry for any confusion, but this was not clear from the abridged version posted.

I think the writer wanted to convey that both sets of prices are rising - it could be that we will see Crude Oil prices recede whilst gas prices (the price consumers pay at the pump) may continue to rise for a short while.

We still have 2 different commodities with 2 different prices. And it not a given that a price move of one of the commodities in one direction will result in the same move for the other commodity.

Re: gas and oil prices

New2grammar — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:39:09 GMT

Everything is rising these days except for my salary.

Re: gas and oil prices

optilang — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:35:14 GMT

Unfortunately the price of Gas is rising, although maybe not as dramatically as Oil.

Re: gas and oil prices

New2grammar — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:31:44 GMT

I think GG has a point. Though gas (if the author means gasoline) is a derivative of oil/petrolium, it's still not redudandant in this context.

I don't think the price of natural gas is soaring because as far as I know 90 percent of any oil site is filled with natural gas and demand for natural gas is low because of transportation costs and extraction difficulties. So, logically, the writer means gasoline. Just my thought.

Re: gas and oil prices

optilang — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:24:43 GMT

RayH
My question is since gas is a product of oil why does the writer mention gas and oil together? Isn't gas redundant?

I thought I'd explained above that gas is NOT a product derived from oil - Gasoline is.

So when the writer refers to Gas and Oil prices he is talking about 2 different commodities - so Gas here is not redundant.

Sorry if my earlier post wasn't clear

Re: gas and oil prices

RayH — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:18:38 GMT

New2grammar
My question is since gas is a product of oil why does the writer mention gas and oil together? Isn't gas redundant?

Well, maybe, but it's such a common locution I wouldn't stress too much over it.

New2grammar
Just to make sure I understand oil prices correct, they include cooking oil price, engine oil price, gasoline oil price, etc, right?

The context of this article makes it clear that the author is referring only to crude oil and its derivatives, mainly gasoline. Certianly not cooking oil and the like.

Re: gas and oil prices

optilang — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:13:32 GMT

New2grammar
Just to make sure I understand oil prices correct, they include cooking oil price, engine oil price, gasoline oil price, etc, right?

Engine oil, industrial oil, gasoline, (Not sure about Diesel but I think so too)

BUT not cooking oil, which mostly comes from vegetable sources I believe

Re: gas and oil prices

Grammar Geek — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:12:44 GMT

The author is referring to the price of cruide oil, and gasoline/petrol.

If I said the price of lumber and paper was increasing, would that be redundant?

What about lumber and wooden furniture?

Re: gas and oil prices

optilang — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:11:34 GMT

Gas here mens gas - NOT gasoline

Gasoline is derived from oil

gas and oil prices

New2grammar — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:09:34 GMT

With gas and oil prices setting new records on a daily basis, many analysts are beginning to wonder whether anything can stop prices from rising.

I believe gas in the article means gasoline. My question is since gas is a product of oil why does the writer mention gas and oil together? Isn't gas redundant?

Just to make sure I understand oil prices correct, they include cooking oil price, engine oil price, gasoline oil price, etc, right?

Thanks!