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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.englishforums.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL General English Grammar Questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htm</link><description>Ask your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)</generator><item><title>Re: subordinate clauses?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwwd/post.htm#518316</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 09:01:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:518316</guid><dc:creator>26TMNTJG2PG</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwwd/post.htm#518316</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-518316.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&amp;nbsp;I think the two number 2&amp;#39;s should be correct instead according to one of the functions of commas stated below:-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The comma is often used to separate a &lt;a href="http://www.englishforums.com/wiki/Dependent_clause" title="Dependent clause"&gt;dependent clause&lt;/a&gt; from the &lt;a href="http://www.englishforums.com/wiki/Independent_clause" title="Independent clause"&gt;independent 
clause&lt;/a&gt; if the dependent clause comes first. 
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;After I brushed the cat, I lint-rollered my clothes. (optional comma) 
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I lint-rollered my clothes after I brushed the cat. (no comma) &lt;br /&gt;[FROM ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_%28punctuation%29]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: subordinate clauses?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwwc/post.htm#518315</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:57:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:518315</guid><dc:creator>Jackson6612</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwwc/post.htm#518315</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-518315.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Why are number 1&amp;#39;s correct, whereas number 2&amp;#39;s are not? Please note the commas.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;First Part:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;1. Stealing is illegal, because it is a crime.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;2. Stealing is illegal because it is a crime.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="color:#ff8080;"&gt;Second Part:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color:#ff8080;"&gt;1. Fishing is important to us, since it generates a lot of&amp;nbsp;income.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="color:#ff8080;"&gt;2. Since&amp;nbsp;fishing generates a lot income, it is important to us.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can understand what thing is baffling you. In the First Part you would be thinking about the use of that comma.&lt;strong&gt; I don&amp;#39;t think that the second sentence is incorrect.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Sometimes what choice of words/punctuation an author uses in certain expressions is completely at his discretion.&lt;/font&gt; So both sentences in the First Part are correct. &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; is used when stating the reason for something. In the following sentence no comma is used in front of &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;i&gt;The President has played a shrewd diplomatic game because from the outset he called for direct talks with the United States...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now come to the Second Part. &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; is used to introduce reasons or explanations. &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt;=&lt;i&gt;as&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; can also be used at the start of the sentences but only when the sentence begins with the subordinate clause. e.g. &lt;i&gt;Since you are unable to answer, we should ask someone else&lt;/i&gt;. In that sentence you cannot use &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; in front of &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt; because the clause starting with &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt; is the main one.&lt;strong&gt; The second sentence is also correct. It&amp;#39;s just that it starts with the subordinate clause.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kind regards,&lt;br /&gt;Jackson&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: subordinate clauses?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwwb/post.htm#518314</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:57:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:518314</guid><dc:creator>optilang</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwwb/post.htm#518314</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-518314.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&amp;quot;Since fishing generates a lot of income, it is important to us&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Could someone kindly explain why this is not correct?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: subordinate clauses?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwhg/post.htm#518302</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:14:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:518302</guid><dc:creator>Creativeguru</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwhg/post.htm#518302</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-518302.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stealing is illegal, because it is a crime.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; here first we are providing fact and then reasoning of it. Hence comma should come after illegal&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fishing is important to us, since it generates a lot of&amp;nbsp;income.&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; same first its the fact and then we emphasise on it so we need the coma after us&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hope it helps&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>subordinate clauses?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwzh/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 05:38:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:518269</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwzh/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-518269.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why are number 1&amp;#39;s correct, whereas number 2&amp;#39;s are not? Please note the commas.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. Stealing is illegal, because it is a crime.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Stealing is illegal because it is a crime.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.Fishing is important to us, since it generates a lot of&amp;nbsp;income.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Since&amp;nbsp;fishing generates a lot income, it is important to us.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>