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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.englishforums.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL General English Grammar Questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htm</link><description>Ask your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)</generator><item><title>Re: tenses</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Tenses/gdmzr/post.htm#519418</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 03:37:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:519418</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Tenses/gdmzr/post.htm#519418</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-519418.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;1. When you use the word &amp;#39;when&amp;#39;, do you have to use a past perfect in the subordinate clause to denote the past activity or can we use a past there like the main clause to make the context apparent?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;When &lt;strong&gt;he &lt;/strong&gt;had eaten his lunch, he &lt;strong&gt;&lt;strike&gt;rose up&lt;/strike&gt; got up&lt;/strong&gt; and went home.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;When he finished&lt;strong&gt; (or &amp;#39;ate&amp;#39;)&lt;/strong&gt; &amp;nbsp;his lunch, he &lt;strong&gt;&lt;strike&gt;rose up&lt;/strike&gt; got up&lt;/strong&gt; and went home.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;The above is OK with Simple Past,&amp;nbsp;because the sequence of events is&amp;nbsp;clear.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An example of a case where the Simple Past does not make the sequence clear is &amp;#39;When he ate his lunch, he read a book&amp;#39;. If you want to show that the eating was first, you can say &amp;#39;When he had eaten his lunch, he read a book&amp;#39;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;2. Why is these tenses are not correctly used?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Workers are installing extra loudspeakers because the music in tonight&amp;#39;s concert will need amplication.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt; This is OK.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Can I make it like this?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Workers are installing extra loudspeakers because the music in tonight&amp;#39;s concert will be???needing amplication. &lt;font color="#000000"&gt;This is OK, if you feel that you want to stress the duration of the &amp;#39;needing&amp;#39;&lt;/font&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>tenses</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Tenses/gdmcm/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 01:24:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:519379</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Tenses/gdmcm/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-519379.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Please answer these questions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. When you use the word &amp;#39;when&amp;#39;, do you have to use a past perfect in the subordinate clause to denote the past activity or can we use a past there like the main clause to make the context apparent?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When had eaten his lunch, he rose up and went home.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When he finished his lunch, he rose up and went home.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Why is these tenses are not correctly used?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Workers are installing extra loudspeakers because the music in tonight&amp;#39;s concert will need amplication.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can I make it like this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Workers are installing extra loudspeakers because the music in tonight&amp;#39;s concert will be???needing amplication.&lt;/p&gt;
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