http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.enCSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/2/ghrhk/Post.htm#535646Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:31:32 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535646Marius Hancu0http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/2/ghrhk/Post.htm#535646http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535646.xml&nbsp;My (not too long) research shows there&#39;s no clear explanation for the origins of term. Just learn it as it is. <br /><div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ghrhw/post.htm#535644Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:22:04 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535644New2grammar1http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ghrhw/post.htm#535644http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535644.xmlI&#39;m sorry. Actually I wanted to learn its origin. I know the meaning of the phrase or I wouldn&#39;t have answered the post. Sorry for the confusion.<div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ghrhg/post.htm#535642Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:18:03 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535642Marius Hancu2http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ghrhg/post.htm#535642http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535642.xml&nbsp;</p><p>Guys, do your homework and use your dictionaries, it&#39;s there:</p><p>&nbsp;</p> runner up <p><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/runner%20up" target="_blank" title="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/runner%20up">http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/runner%20up</a><div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ghrgq/post.htm#535635Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:04:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535635Vincent Teo3http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ghrgq/post.htm#535635http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535635.xmlI also want to know the reason..<div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggqpd/post.htm#535486Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:53:36 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535486New2grammar4http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggqpd/post.htm#535486http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535486.xmlNona, Why is the first runner up not the first place? I think the secret lies in the meaning of runner up. What&#39;s that?<div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggqpc/post.htm#535485Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:52:03 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535485nona the brit5http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggqpc/post.htm#535485http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535485.xmlThink of it as &#39;the first runner-up to pass the finish line&#39; = 2nd place<br />&#39;the 2nd runner-up to pass the finish line&#39; = 3rd place<br /><br />and so on<div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggqmm/post.htm#535444Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:02:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535444New2grammar6http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggqmm/post.htm#535444http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535444.xmlThis thing always confuses me too. It doesn&#39;t make sense right?<br />To answer you question, I agree with bluemagic.<div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggqmk/post.htm#535442Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:00:27 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535442Vincent Teo7http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggqmk/post.htm#535442http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535442.xmlAnyone can give me comment?<br /><div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggpjc/post.htm#535094Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:05:49 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535094bluemagiceye598http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggpjc/post.htm#535094http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535094.xmlcorrect me if i&#39;m wrong anybody, but i&#39;m pretty sure that...<br /><br />2nd place = 1st runner up<br /><br />3rd place = 2nd runner up<br /><br />you have them backwards<div style="clear:both;"></div>http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggpjr/post.htmTue, 01 Jul 2008 12:02:56 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535092Vincent Teo9http://www.englishforums.com/English/1stRunnerUp3rdPlace/ggpjr/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-535092.xmlAre they same in meaning?<br /><br />1st runner-up = 3rd place<br /><br />2nd runner-up = 2nd place<div style="clear:both;"></div>