ESL General English Grammar Questions

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Ant_222 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:02:54 GMT

New2grammar
Yes. Thanks for the correction.

Actually I didn't meat it as such: In the beginning of the thread Marius proposed an article-less version, and I am not sure he was wrong!

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

New2grammar — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:25:31 GMT

Yes. Thanks for the correction.

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Ant_222 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:21:18 GMT

New2grammar
and which is better, without frame or frames?

Didn't you mean "without a/the frame" and "without frames"?

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

New2grammar — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:21:33 GMT

Which is more common, rim or frame when talking about glasses?

and which is better, without frame or frames?

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

CalifJim — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:18:38 GMT

What the heck. Go ahead and confuse things!

without rims seems perfectly fine to me, too.

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Mr Wordy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:25:54 GMT

Just to confuse things, I'm pretty sure I would say "The pair without rims is mine". Two lenses, two rims.

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

CalifJim — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:03:34 GMT

Yes. If there are only two pairs of glasses, then there is no doubt which rim you're talking about when you say "the", so I admit that saying without the rim would not make me wince.

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Ant_222 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:51:52 GMT

Thanks!

BTW, I could think of this reasoning of the definite article:

There are only two pairs glasses, of them has a rim. So, there's only one rim and it can be called "the rim". And the other pair of glasses is without this rim. Pretty weird...

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

CalifJim — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:33:45 GMT

Ant_222
could you please explain to me what the reason for not using an article is?

I would have used a.

without a rim

without a cap

without a drink

without a care in the world

without a place to call his own

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Ant_222 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:27:32 GMT

Sorry for bringing it back, could you please explain me what the reason for not using an article is?

If it's he glasses' plurality, then what about "The one (ball pen) without a cap is mine"?

Anton

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Yoong Liat — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:46:01 GMT

New2grammar
Embarassing.

Sometimes you spell 'embarrassing' correctly, sometimes wrongly. Remember that the word has two r's and 2 s's.

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

New2grammar — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:59:13 GMT

I guess it's not a problem when context is clear. Don't sweat it.

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Marius Hancu — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:58:12 GMT

frameless/rimless are both UK/AmE, IMO

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Peaceblinkfriend — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:56:56 GMT

I should have said 'there are several pairs of glasses on the table' instead.

Re: "The pair without rim/a rim/ the rim is mine."

Peaceblinkfriend — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:56:34 GMT

I should have said 'there are several pairs of glasses on the table' instead.