ESL General English Grammar Questions

Re: after the fact

Avangi — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:10:33 GMT

No bother at all. If you hadn't taken the trouble to find the reference, we'd still be guessing. People don't necessarily take care with their English when posting on a technical site. Thanks for following through. - A.

Edit. BTW, "nigh" is an old word for "near." "Nigh impossible" means "close to impossible." I'm guessing that Desire took it as a typo for "high" and hypercorrected.

Re: after the fact

Ant_222 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:23:23 GMT

Hi, Avagni.

I fully agree with you, but since the post is about a video file, why there's no article before "video"? I have no idea...

Sorry for bothering...
Anton

Re: after the fact

Avangi — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:10:34 GMT

Desireandlove
"In my experience ~~it'f highly~~ it's nigh impossible for you to truly increse the quality of video after the fact."

Okay, thanks Ant, I have it.

It seems like the operational term here is "truly," meaning that "enhancement" is only enhancement and you're not really changing anything. (It's a philosophical argument.) The poster goes on to explain that if you're smart enough and rich enough you can do it. (Yes, we're referring to DVD's.)

His ultimate advice is that it's far better to make a quality file in the first place than to try to repair a bad one. Sounds like good advice.

- A.

Re: after the fact

Avangi — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:53:09 GMT

Hi Ant,
I tried your reference, and it was a thread entitled, "Videogamer wanted." I couldn't seem to find the quote.

Rgdz, - A.

Edit. Woops! Sorry, I got the last digit wrong!

Re: after the fact

Ant_222 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:25:16 GMT

And here's the context, by which I'd even suppose the indefinite article should have been used before "video":

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=86179

Re: after the fact

Avangi — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:16:09 GMT

Hi Marius, I'm interested in your concept.

As you say, "the video," I assume you're referring to a DVD (disc) or a VCR (tape). I had interpreted the question (absent the article) as referring to the reproduction equipment, and its ability to produce a better image than was "originally" possible.

I know there are computer programs which can "enhance" the digital file to improve the quality of the image. I don't know if this is true of analog tapes. I expect the process of "improving" old movie films involves first converting them to digital.

Perhaps the existence of enhancement technology for the file or the reproduction equipment is not relevant. CJ opted to stand with Ant in holding that it can't be settled without context. (I notice that Ant also wrote "the video," as you did.

Anyway, my statement, "The only thing it can possibly mean" was more than a bit extreme. This becomes increasingly clear to me.

Best wishes, - A.

Re: after the fact

Marius Hancu — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:23:19 GMT

after the time of capturing, originally producing the video

Re: after the fact

Avangi — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:53:52 GMT

I think some native speakers have a habit of using "after the fact" in a smart-alec-y way, leaving the listener to figure it out. (Doesn't make it right.)

Re: after the fact

CalifJim — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:46:03 GMT

after the fact = after the aforementioned action has been done.

The sentences which precede this one will tell you which action is being referred to.

Re: after the fact

Avangi — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:33:16 GMT

Desireandlove
What does "after the fact" means?

Hi Joakim,

The only thing it can possibly mean in this context, IMHO, is after the fact of manufacture.

You may fine tune the adjustments which the design provides, but there is nothing you can add, or modify, to improve the quality. (i.e., enhancements)

(You man "improve" the memory of your computer by adding chips, or improve the speed by changing the cpu - I think.)

I don't know if the original statement is true, but I believe that's the intention. I'll grant you, it's ambiguous. Could be after the fact of it's falling out a tenth-story window.

Best wishes, - A.

Re: after the fact

Ant_222 — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:56:29 GMT

Without the context, it isn't clear the completion of what operation on the video is referred to as "the fact"...

after the fact

Desireandlove — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:21:07 GMT

Hi again!

I got a sentence here which I do understand, but there's litte part of the sentence I need explnations on.

"In my experience it'f highly impossible for you to truly increse the quality of video after the fact.

What does "after the fact" means?

Regards, Joakim.