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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.englishforums.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL General English Grammar Questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htm</link><description>Ask your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)</generator><item><title>Re: I have met him before.=I met him before.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Default/gwkqn/post.htm#543605</link><pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:38:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:543605</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Default/gwkqn/post.htm#543605</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-543605.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;As&amp;nbsp;an American speaker, I think I&amp;#39;d use the present perfect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Barb, come me Joe.&lt;br /&gt;Oh, we&amp;#39;ve met. Nice to see you again Joe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you come to the party, you can meet Barb.&lt;br /&gt;We&amp;#39;ve met before, but it will be nice to see her again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the other hand: We &lt;em&gt;first met &lt;/em&gt;in Paris. The Germans wore grey. You wore blue.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I have met him before.=I met him before.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Default/gwkqm/post.htm#543604</link><pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:33:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:543604</guid><dc:creator>Mr Wordy</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Default/gwkqm/post.htm#543604</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-543604.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s the same deal for &amp;quot;met&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;heard&amp;quot;, so to keep it simple I&amp;#39;ll just use &amp;quot;met&amp;quot; in the examples.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;I met him&amp;quot; means that I&amp;#39;m talking about a specific time in the past when I met him&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;I have met him&amp;quot; means that I&amp;#39;ve met him on one or more occasions on the past. It&amp;#39;s not important when those occasions were; all I&amp;#39;m trying to get across is that I have met him at&amp;nbsp;some time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However,&amp;nbsp;if the word &amp;quot;before&amp;quot; is added, and the sentence ends there, then this often implies the second meaning (because &amp;quot;before&amp;quot; itself often means &amp;quot;at some time(s) in the past&amp;quot;).&amp;nbsp;I would therefore usually say&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;I &lt;strong&gt;have&lt;/strong&gt; met him before&amp;quot; to avoid an inconsistency between the tense and the word &amp;quot;before&amp;quot;. But other speakers may not agree with this, and so you might well hear &amp;quot;I met him before&amp;quot;. I get the impression that the latter form might be more common in American English, but a native American English speaker would need to confirm that.&amp;nbsp;An additional complication, though, is that&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;before&amp;quot; can also be used to mean &amp;quot;recently&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;a little while ago&amp;quot;. In this case I would not use &amp;quot;have&amp;quot;. For example, if I was introduced to a visitor for&amp;nbsp;a second time&amp;nbsp;then I&amp;nbsp;might say &amp;quot;I met him before&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If &amp;quot;before&amp;quot; is followed by a time reference then &amp;quot;have&amp;quot; is normally not used. For example, &amp;quot;I met him before I joined&amp;quot;, not &amp;quot;I have met him before I joined.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>I have met him before.=I met him before.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Default/gwkxw/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:21:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:543566</guid><dc:creator>Viceidol</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Default/gwkxw/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-543566.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello, everyone:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of my grammar book says:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;I &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#3366ff"&gt;have met&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; him before&lt;/em&gt;.=&lt;em&gt;I &lt;font color="#ff6600"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;met&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt; him before.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#3366ff"&gt;have heard&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; it before. = I &lt;font color="#ff6600"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;heard&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt; it before.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is that really true? Thank you for your reply.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>