http://www.englishforums.com/English/EslGeneralEnglishGrammar-Questions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.enXMOD (Build: 3598.39794)http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/2/gkgkj/Post.htm#552238Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552238New2grammar0http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/2/gkgkj/Post.htm#552238http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552238.xmlThanks, RayH! I get it now. I thought a tube top revealed the tummy, thus the shape of a tube. http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PMO2058.jpg you politely ignore it as though nothing had happened I got it now. The reason you used "had happened" was that "as though" makes the following clause hyphothetical. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks, GG.http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/2/gkgkj/Post.htm#552236Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552236Grammar Geek1http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/2/gkgkj/Post.htm#552236http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552236.xmlAn oxymoron contracticts itself. A tank top has sleeves. A sleeveless tank top is an oxymoron. As Ray was kind enough to research for us, your'e desribing a tube top. Which of the tenses would you have changed to present perfect? How would you have witten the sentence?http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/2/gkgkj/Post.htm#552234Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552234RayH2http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/2/gkgkj/Post.htm#552234http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552234.xmlstrapless tank top It is with great trepidation that I venture into this discussion and I do so only in the interest of complete accuracy. After much research and the viewing of many pictures (hey, someone has to do it ) I have determined that a "strapless tank top" is in fact a "tube top" and that all tank tops do in fact have, pretty much by definition, shoulder straps. http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=%22tube+top%22&btnG=Search+Images http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=%22tank+top%22&btnG=Search+Imageshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/2/gkgkj/Post.htm#552233Fri, 08 May 2009 17:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552233New2grammar3http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/2/gkgkj/Post.htm#552233http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552233.xmlA strapless tank top is an oxymoron Why would you say that, GG? I'm not particular familiar with the term, oxymoron. I know themeaning of moron pretty well. Also, I'm a bit surprised by your choice of tenses. you politely ignore it as though nothing had happened Present tense combined with past perfect. Shouldn't it be present perfect?http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552232Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552232optilang4http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552232http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552232.xmlI actually got what you meant. I was wondering if a native speaker would sometimes accidentally skip a line and then immediately correct it. I guess not though I do, even in my mother tongue. However, I have ways to correct it naturally. I wonder how a native would correct the original. A girl wearing a strapless tank top comes up and asks for permission to play with your active and cute dog. Your dog first sniffs her and then starts to climb on her front to lick her face. (Opps... you realize you've missed something and you want to clarify. How would you do it? I would say something like: "A girl wearing a strapless tank top comes up and asks for permission to play with your active and cute dog. Your dog first sniffs her...http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552229Fri, 08 May 2009 17:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552229Grammar Geek5http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552229http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552229.xmlA strapless tank top is an oxymoron. You mean a tube top. At least, you do in the US. (The answer to the question is, you politely ignore it as though nothing had happened.)http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552228Fri, 08 May 2009 17:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552228New2grammar6http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552228http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552228.xmlI actually got what you meant. I was wondering if a native speaker would sometimes accidentally skip a line and then immediately correct it. I guess not though I do, even in my mother tongue. However, I have ways to correct it naturally. I wonder how a native would correct the original. A girl wearing a strapless tank top comes up and asks for permission to play with your active and cute dog. Your dog first sniffs her and then starts to climb on her front to lick her face. (Opps... you realize you've missed something and you want to clarify. How would you do it?http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552223Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552223optilang7http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552223http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552223.xmlIn fact, I had an image in my mind that the dog was climbing up he to reach her face. I knew I made that mistake.In an attempt to clarify I added that line but it made it worse. I wonder when you realize you were unclear in a conversation (you can't go back and rewrite), how do you correct yourself? Could you take my situation as an example? Thanks. I would say something like: I'm sorry, I'm not making myself clear, let me recap/go back a second. What I mean is, after she asked if it was OK to stroke/play with my dog, she knelt down to stoke him, and then he started jumping up trying to lick her face. That's when the paw ..http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552202Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:48:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552202New2grammar8http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552202http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552202.xmlIn fact, I had an image in my mind that the dog was climbing up he to reach her face. I knew I made that mistake.In an attempt to clarify I added that line but it made it worse. I wonder when you realize you were unclear in a conversation (you can't go back and rewrite), how do you correct yourself? Could you take my situation as an example? Thanks.http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552199Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:48:13 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552199optilang9http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552199http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552199.xmlHi You didn't make it clear that she was on her knees from the moment the dog started licking her. In fact, I had an image in my mind that the dog was climbing up he to reach her face. My suggestion: A girl wearing a strapless tank top comes up and asks for permission to play with your active and cute dog. You gladly agree, so she kneels down to start stroking it. Your dog first sniffs her and then starts jumping up to climb on her front to lick her face. She is now on her knees . All of a sudden, your dog's paw accidentally pulls her top down, revealing her breasts.http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552193Fri, 08 May 2009 17:48:13 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552193New2grammar10http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552193http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552193.xmlShe is now on her knees. I find this a bit sudden when reading it. We had the dog climbing on her and now she is down on her knees, with no explanation of when, how or why she got there. Did the dog push her over? I agree with you. I just wanted to make sure the reader knows her position. She is on her knees when my dog climbs on her. Can I just remove the entire sentence? Will the context still be clear? If not, how to add this sentence smoothly? Thanks.http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552182Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:48:13 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552182optilang11http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htm#552182http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552182.xmlA girl wearing a strapless tank top comes up and asks for permission to play with your active and cute dog. Your dog first sniffs her and then starts to climb on her front to lick her face. She is now on her knees. I find this a bit sudden when reading it. We had the dog climbing on her and now she is down on her knees, with no explanation of when, how or why she got there. Did the dog push her over? All of a sudden, your dog's paw accidentally pulls her top down, revealing her breasts. She quickly reacts by pulling it back up and hopes no one has see n them. Of course, you saw them. Should you apologize or (should you) just keep quiet and act like nothing (has) happened?http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htmSun, 08 Mar 2009 18:48:13 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:552169New2grammar12http://www.englishforums.com/English/TankTop/gkgkj/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-552169.xmlA girl wearing a strapless tank top comes up and asks for permission to play with your active and cute dog. Your dog first sniffs her and then starts to climb on her front to lick her face. She is now on her knees. All of a sudden, your dog's paw accidentally pulls her top down, revealing her breasts. She quickly reacts by pulling it back up and hopes noone sees them. Of course, you saw them. Should you apologize or should you just keep quiet and act like nothing has happened? Are there any mistakes? Thanks.