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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.englishforums.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL General English Grammar Questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htm</link><description>Ask your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)</generator><item><title>Re: can you help with this comparsion sentences</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ComparsionSentences/gmjrd/post.htm#562686</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:20:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:562686</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ComparsionSentences/gmjrd/post.htm#562686</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-562686.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hi,&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m glad you posted this again, because the earlier thread in which we were discussing it seems to have been deleted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I told you the first sentence, for example,&amp;nbsp;was basically impossible to understand as written. ie&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;&lt;font color="#295b8b"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The present&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a style="COLOR:#295b8b;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;invention&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt; has any advantageous effect different from that of&amp;nbsp;another invention&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Can we look at a simpler example? &lt;strong&gt;eg &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The taste of Pepsi is better than that of Coke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;If I understand your question correctly, you are asking if the words&amp;nbsp;&amp;#39;that of&amp;#39; are grammatical.&lt;br /&gt;Yes, they are fine. &amp;#39;That&amp;#39; refers to &amp;#39;the taste&amp;#39;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that&amp;nbsp;&amp;#39;that of&amp;#39; is often omitted in everyday speech and informal writing, ie &lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The taste of Pepsi is better than&amp;nbsp;Coke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;However, use &amp;#39;that of&amp;#39; in more careful speech and writing, because you are comparing&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt; &lt;em&gt;taste&lt;/em&gt; to &lt;em&gt;taste&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, not &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;taste &lt;/em&gt;to&lt;em&gt; Coke&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If my Coke/Pepsi example is not the kind of thing you are asking about, please supply another&amp;nbsp;simple example. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>can you help with this comparsion sentences</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ComparsionSentences/gmwpq/post.htm</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:44:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:562665</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ComparsionSentences/gmwpq/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-562665.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;&lt;font color="#295b8b"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The present&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a style="COLOR:#295b8b;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;invention&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt; has any advantageous effect different from that of&amp;nbsp;another invention&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My question is &amp;quot;should the use of that in the above be considered incorrect grammatically&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; So, the above sentence should be rendered like &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;this &amp;quot; &lt;span&gt;The present&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;span&gt;invention&lt;/span&gt; has any advantageous effect different from the demonstrated &lt;span&gt;invention&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q 2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Likewise, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;There has been no&amp;nbsp; difficulty or advantageous effect&amp;nbsp;of the present invention different from that of another&amp;nbsp;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;nvention&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;quot; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;In the same vein as under Q 1, should the use of &amp;quot;that of&amp;quot; in the above be considered grammtically incorrect.&amp;nbsp; I am a little unsure whether the above sentence is grammtically correct or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Should the above sentnece be rendered as &amp;quot; There has been no &lt;span&gt;constitutional&lt;/span&gt; difficulty or advantageous effect therefrom different from another demonstrated &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;invention&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Thanks for your answers and time in &lt;span&gt;advance&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>