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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.englishforums.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL General English Grammar Questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htm</link><description>Ask your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)</generator><item><title>Re: Conditional</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Conditional/gxcqj/post.htm#570767</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:22:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:570767</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Conditional/gxcqj/post.htm#570767</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-570767.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think a zero condtional &lt;strike&gt;in&lt;/strike&gt; [is] one that always gives the same result&amp;nbsp;(eg, physical law?) and the first conditional is one that denotes what one will do given a present if-clause.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;This is a reasonable thought.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; But I don&amp;#39;t think I would restrict the first conditional to cases where &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; is used.&amp;nbsp; Other modal verbs like &lt;i&gt;can, may, &lt;/i&gt;and&lt;i&gt; should&lt;/i&gt; are frequently used there, as well as imperatives.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would like to know if these are zero, first or any other&amp;nbsp; conditional.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;If we set aside a part of our income we [can / will be able to] save ...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt; [Type I.]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;If we [can / manage to] do this ..., we [can / will be able to] extend it ... &lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; [Type I.]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;If the person chooses correctly, it &lt;u&gt;is&lt;/u&gt; the ... &amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; [Type 0.]&amp;nbsp; [No &lt;i&gt;will, can, may&lt;/i&gt;, etc.&amp;nbsp; More like a law.]&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Conditional</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Conditional/gxccj/post.htm</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:53:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:570529</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Conditional/gxccj/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-570529.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the thread named &amp;quot;Usage of can/could&amp;quot; which was started by &amp;quot;phanish&amp;quot;, I found these what looked like conditionals in Mr. M&amp;#39;s revisionary work. I would like to know if these are zero, first or any other&amp;nbsp; conditional. I think a zero condtional in one that always gives the same result&amp;nbsp;(eg, physical law?) and the first conditional is one that denotes what one will do given a present if-clause. This understanding of mine seems to fall short when it comes to fully understanding some of the sentences below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Picked out from your revisionary work:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we keep aside a part of our income every month, say about Rs 100, then &lt;strong&gt;we&lt;/strong&gt; can save Rs 1200 every year&lt;br /&gt;If we &lt;strong&gt;can&lt;/strong&gt; do this successfully for &lt;strong&gt;one &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span&gt;year, &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;we can&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt; then&lt;/strong&gt; extend it for another year.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about this?&lt;br /&gt;If the person chooses corrrectly, it is the other person&amp;#39;s turn to pick a card.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>