ESL General English Grammar Questionshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishGrammarQuestions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here.enCSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)Re: Tenses in since-clauseshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkxm/post.htm#253703Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:01:18 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:253703CalifJim0http://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkxm/post.htm#253703http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-253703.xml<i>since I got to know him</i> is also a good way to say it, yes.<br> <br> CJ<br> <br><div style="clear:both;"></div>Re: Tenses in since-clauseshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkxz/post.htm#253696Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:45:15 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:253696Maple1http://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkxz/post.htm#253696http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-253696.xml<P>Oh, I know now</P> <P>the (2) should be: </P> <P>He has been a boss ever since I&nbsp;got to know&nbsp;him. </P><div style="clear:both;"></div>Re: Tenses in since-clauseshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkxd/post.htm#253694Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:39:13 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:253694CalifJim2http://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkxd/post.htm#253694http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-253694.xml1 and 4 are correct. 2 and 3 are incorrect. Am I right?<br> <br> I would say so, yes.<br> <br> <i>know</i> is a stative verb, so <i>ever since</i> is going to mean <i>during the entire time from when</i> (I<i> came to</i> know him) <i>until now</i>.<br> <i>meet</i> is not a stative verb, so <i>ever since</i> is going to mean <i>from the time when</i> (I met him) <i>until now</i>.<br> <br> It is the difference between the verb types that influences the choice of tense after <i>ever since</i> (or just <i>since</i>).<br> <br> CJ<br><div style="clear:both;"></div>Re: Tenses in since-clauseshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkmv/post.htm#253661Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:07:34 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:253661Maple3http://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkmv/post.htm#253661http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-253661.xml<P>On the contrary, I like 2 &amp; 4 for the reason that I'd like to take "since clause" as "since the time + when clause", and "since the time when"&nbsp;always introduces clauses&nbsp;whose verbs are in their past tenses.</P><div style="clear:both;"></div>Re: Tenses in since-clauseshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkkd/post.htm#253626Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:19:22 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:253626Teo4http://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/drkkd/post.htm#253626http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-253626.xml<P>1. He has been a boss ever since I have known him. <BR>2. He has been a boss ever since I knew him. <BR>3. He has been a boss ever since I have&nbsp;met him. <BR>4. He has been a boss ever since I&nbsp;met him. </P> <P>1 and 4 are correct. 2 and 3 are incorrect. Am I right?<BR></P><div style="clear:both;"></div>Re: Tenses in since-clauseshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/mbwx/post.htm#59395Sun, 05 Dec 2004 04:36:58 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:59395CalifJim5http://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/mbwx/post.htm#59395http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-59395.xmlTeo, <br />No, that analysis is not correct. <br />Only the first sentence makes sense. <br /> <br />Something that would come closer to implying that he was no longer a boss might be: <br /> <br />He used to be a boss when I knew him. <br /> <br />But even that doesn't mean he is definitely not a boss now. <br /> <br /> <img src="/emoticons/emotion-15.gif" alt="Geeked [8-|]" />Tenses in since-clauseshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/mbwj/post.htmSun, 05 Dec 2004 04:25:10 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:59390Teo6http://www.englishforums.com/English/TensesInSinceClauses/mbwj/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-59390.xml1. He has been a boss ever since I have known him. <br />2. He has been a boss ever since I knew him. <br />Someone syas, "'Ever since I have known him' implies that he is still a boss; 'ever since I knew him' would imply that he is no longer a boss." Is that analysis correct? <br />Thank you very much for your reply.