http://www.englishforums.com/English/EslGeneralEnglishGrammar-Questions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here. <font color=red>DO NOT post paragraphs and compositions here. Post them in our <a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"><b>Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum</b></a>.</font>enXMOD (Build: 3616.28671)http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#604082Mon, 25 May 2009 21:29:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:604082Anonymous0http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#604082http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-604082.xmlTo is never omitted after a passive finite verb; that&#39;s the way it is: Thank you for your comment. I should understand as is. Keiichihttp://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602731Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:29:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:602731Goodman1http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602731http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-602731.xmlIf there is any grammarian here, please correct me if I am wrong. Given the 2 choices, I would say # 2 is more accpetable. When some one is seen , even he is not doing anything but sitting down on a park bench, &#39;sitting&quot; is still an act . So the logical deductive reasoning is &quot;he was seen sitting there on the park bench...&quot; is correc and has no bearing on whether the act was completed or not. &quot;Was seen...&quot; already took care of the tense. # 1 looks grammatically correct but it sure sounds awkward to my ear. 1) He was seen to walk in the street, 2) He was seen walking in the street,http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602698Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:29:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:602698Cool Breeze2http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602698http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-602698.xmlGerund would suggest that someone saw a part of his walking and the walking is still happening, whereas the infinite suggests that someone saw the whole event and the walking is stopped now. I know that view has been expressed by quite a few grammarians. In my view they are just trying to make English more exact than it really is. If I see one of these sentences: He was seen to walk in the street, or: He was seen walking in the street, there really is no knowing if the person saw saw part of the walking or all of it. I know many grammarians agree with me - we&#39;ll just have to disagree, I think. Anyone versed in English literature and conversational English will have noticed that even though in some cases what you...http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602548Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:29:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:602548Zerox3http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602548http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-602548.xmlGerund would suggest that someone saw a part of his walking and the walking is still happening, whereas the infinite suggests that someone saw the whole event and the walking is stopped now.http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602523Mon, 25 May 2009 21:29:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:602523Cool Breeze4http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602523http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-602523.xml&lt;&lt;&lt;He was seen to walk yesterday&gt;&gt; I believe it should take a gerund, &quot;walking&quot; instead of the infinitve &quot;to walk&quot;. There isn&#39;t a single verb in English that can be followed by an infinitive in the active but requires a gerund in the passive. CBhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602394Mon, 25 May 2009 21:29:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:602394Goodman5http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602394http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-602394.xml&lt;&lt;&lt;He was seen to walk yesterday&gt;&gt; I believe it should take a gerund, &quot;walking&quot; instead of the infinitve &quot;to walk&quot;. He was seen with Mary but no one saw him again since then. walking to school] - is a participle clause which adds more information to the sentence. There are no known rules to my knowledge. A security system has been put in my house to protect my family from protential intrudershttp://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602379Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:29:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:602379Cool Breeze6http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htm#602379http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-602379.xmlThere is no particular reason. To is never omitted after a passive finite verb; that&#39;s the way it is: I saw him walk yesterday. He was seen to walk yesterday. CBhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htmMon, 25 May 2009 21:29:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:602351Anonymous7http://www.englishforums.com/English/CausativeVerbPassiveForm/hdkvh/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-602351.xmlHi. I have a question. #1 He made her attend the meeting. #2 She was made to attend the meeting. I know both right, but what I don&#39;t understand is why &quot;to&quot; is added to passive sentense. Please give me your comments as if I&#39;m a beginning ESL student. Thank you for your comments in advence. Keiichi