http://www.englishforums.com/English/EslGeneralEnglishGrammar-Questions/Forum12.htmAsk your questions on grammar and get your sentence checked. We answer lots of different types of general English grammar questions here. <font color=red>DO NOT post paragraphs and compositions here. Post them in our <a href="http://www.englishforums.com/English/EssayReportCompositionWriting/Forum9.htm"><b>Essay, Report and Composition Writing Forum</b></a>.</font>enXMOD (Build: 3615.39139)http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#63023Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:63023Jobb0http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#63023http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-63023.xmlThat is cool!http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62923Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:52:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:62923taiwandave1http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62923http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-62923.xmlJobb, this sentence is far too long. How about this: Among the forum's participants, how many emphasize substantiation and logic? How many are capable of independent thinking and analysis?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62875Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:52:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:62875Jobb2http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62875http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-62875.xmlThanks for inspiring!http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62851Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:52:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:62851Mister Micawber3http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62851http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-62851.xmlAh. Well, you can use my previous sentence subordinating the 'possession' clause; or if you wish to coordinate, you had better use: 'How many have we seen emphasize substantiation and logic, and how many have we seen who possess the abilities of independent thinking and analysis?' We can observe the act of emphasis, but we cannot observe the act of possession, so you need to rephrase slightly, as I did, to indicate that 'independent thinking and analysis' are already possessed, not in the act of possessing.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62820Mon, 25 May 2009 10:52:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:62820Jobb4http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62820http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-62820.xmlI meant " How many have we seen emphasize substantiation and logic, and how many have we seen possess the ability of independent thinking and analysis?"http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62699Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:52:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:62699Mister Micawber5http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htm#62699http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-62699.xmlWhew! Not so easy, Jobb, because your structure does not reveal your precise meaning. Try this: 'In the discussions on this forum, how many have we seen who, possessing the abilities of independent thinking and analysis, emphasize substantiation and logic?'http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htmMon, 25 May 2009 10:52:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:62629Jobb6http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowMany/mmmb/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments12-62629.xmlIs the sentence okay? From the discussion of this forum, how many have we seen emphasize substantiation and logic, and possess the ability of independent thinking and analysis?