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Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Kooyeen — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:11:28 GMT

CalifJim wrote:
That example of "stand" was quite nerve-racking.

Well, yes, I think it's because of the tone of voice, but I often really find myself saying something close to /stÉªÉnd/ (stand), /dÉªÉm/ (deam), and especially /kÉªÉn(t)/ (can't)... LOL

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

CalifJim — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:40:31 GMT

That example of "stand" was quite nerve-racking.

CJ

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Marvin A. — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:47:25 GMT

Well, that phenomenon is very common in North America. Pronouncing /æ/ like that before /m/ and /n/ is also a feauture of Northern cities vowel shifted accents, where /æ/ is always pronounced like that, as well as many other dialects.

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Kooyeen — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:58:59 GMT

Marvin A. wrote:
Hmm. Why do you pronounce it like /sÉÉÅ/?

Umm, I actually don't know, I don't think I really pronounce it like I told you, but I don't think I use /Ã¦/ either. You know, I don't have a fixed accent, and I'll never have one until I start practicing spoken English regularly. My /Ã¦/ sounds before n or m vary a lot... For example, I might pronounce "Damn" as /dÉÉm/, maybe more often as /deÉm/, with a tendency to /dÉªÉm/. I could well pronounce "Stand" this way: http://www.stanford.edu/~eckert/sounds/stand.wav ...I know it's Californian! That file is one of the links on a website about "Northern California Shift"...

PS: by the way, I just checked what they say on that website (http://www.stanford.edu/~eckert/vowels.html , where I took "stand"), and they say that feature can be found before n, m and ng too. So that would apply to "sang" too... Curious...

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Marvin A. — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 02:46:01 GMT

>> I guess I would say something like /sÉÉÅ/, sounds like "seh-uh-ng"...
I guess I never use /æ/ before n or m. <<

Hmm. Why do you pronounce it like /sÉÉÅ/? I've never heard a native speaker do that. I would recommend using [ æ ] or [ e ] before /Å/. It's fine to use [ ÉÉ ] before /n/ or /m/, but not before /Å/.

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Kooyeen — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:41:16 GMT

Umm
I guess I would say something like /sÉÉÅ/, sounds like "seh-uh-ng"...
I guess I never use /Ã¦/ before n or m.

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

CalifJim — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:19:49 GMT

What vowel do you use in the word 'sang'? [Ã¦] or [eI] or something else?

More like [Ã¦], but actually something else, I'd say. Probably closer to [Ã¦I], but with only a fleeting [ I ], and certainly without making it two syllables like this [sÃ¦ - IN].

CJ

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Conchita57 — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:11:18 GMT

I pronounce the vowel in 'sang' as .

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Alienvoord — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:03:31 GMT

Marvin A. wrote:
Alienvoord wrote:
I have [eI] before voiced velars. "sang", "bag", "bagel", "flag" etc.

Do you have the bag-bang-beg-vague-bay merger?

No. "beg" is E and "bay is [eI] or [ej] - actually the vowel in "bay" is slightly different than the vowel in "bag" and "bang", but I'm not sure how to describe it. I think it's higher and more diphthongized.

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Marvin A. — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:28:59 GMT

Alienvoord wrote:
I have [eI] before voiced velars. "sang", "bag", "bagel", "flag" etc.

Do you have the bag-bang-beg-vague-bay merger?

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Alienvoord — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:23:04 GMT

I have [eI] before voiced velars. "sang", "bag", "bagel", "flag" etc.

Re: How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Englishuser — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:01:15 GMT

Hi,

I use /Ã¦/.

Englishuser

How do you pronounce 'sang'?

Marvin A. — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:34:14 GMT

What vowel do you use in the word 'sang'? [Ã¦] or [eI] or something else?