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Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Kooyeen — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:01:06 GMT

Thanks...

CalifJim wrote:

Typically the dictionaries put the more common pronunciation first. Maybe that will help you to choose.

Yeah, but Merriam-Webster says that the order is not relevant... And you know, should I trust dictionaries? Merriam-Webster? I am supposed to have sued them several times, remember?

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

CalifJim — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:54:42 GMT

Both co and main are stressed. CO do MAIN. A bit more stress on CO.
It's the same as the pattern in

It's MY do MAIN.
It's JOE'S do MAIN.
It's HIS do MAIN.

py THAG o RE an has a little more stress on RE than on THAG, but both of those syllables are stressed.

ubb TOOCE / ahb TOOCE It doesn't matter.

Typically the dictionaries put the more common pronunciation first. Maybe that will help you to choose.

CJ

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Kooyeen — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:02:49 GMT

Ah, I didn't know that. Well, in every modern book it's without hyphen, that's why I wrote "codomain"...

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Feebs11 — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:17:17 GMT

By the way, it's really "codomain" (no hyphen). I don't know what you are referring to, but I'm talking about the codomain of a mathematical function, and that's one word.

It is a hyphenated word that has lost its hyphen.

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Kooyeen — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:28:22 GMT

I see, thanks. I usually use Merriam-Webster online for pronunciation, but often I find some other alternative or possible pronunciations, so I never know what to choose (for words I never heard or that I'm not likely to hear, like "Pythagorean", etc.)

By the way, it's really "codomain" (no hyphen). I don't know what you are referring to, but I'm talking about the codomain of a mathematical function, and that's one word.

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Feebs11 — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:47:14 GMT

It is two words = co + domain
co- [prefix] together; with {{co-defendant is another example}}

I hear Pythagorean with two stresses, one on "tha", the other on "re"

obtuse - There is a slight difference between BE and AmE pronunciation of this. BE has ob'tyuss; AmE is more like ahb'toos

Pronunciation is not an exact science as there are so many dialectical variations. Generally in the dictionaries if there are two options, one is likely to be BE and the other AmE. This dictionary indicates which is AmE : http://tinyurl.com/j3ns

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Kooyeen — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:17:00 GMT

Thanks.

I'm afraid I didn't understand how to pronounce "codomain" though. Is the main stress on the first syllable? --> Coh-doh-main

Also, there are a lot of words I have trouble with... And that happens every time I come across a word that can be pronunced in many different ways. For example "Pythagorean theorem": M-W says the stress is on Pythagorean, but I always heard Pythagorean in several videos. Or cases like "obtuse", which can be pronounced in two different ways according to M-W, but I don't know which one to choose...

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

CalifJim — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:08:02 GMT

KON juggit No Gate. That's for the verb form.

CJ

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Buddhaheart — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:52:12 GMT

As an adjective or noun, all three pronunciations /UkZn.Â®c.gIt/, /UkZn.Â®c.geIt/ and /UkZn.Â®c.gct/ are acceptable. The 2^nd schwa could also be uttered with full vowel quality of /Â/ or /u/ as indicated by you. As a verb, only /- geIt/ is acceptable.

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Feebs11 — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:06:55 GMT

It is in fact "co-domain" {Ah, those missing hyphens!}. So "coe/-/doe-main" with an emphasis on "coe".

"con-juh-gate".

weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Kooyeen — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:43:46 GMT

Hi,
I don't know how to pronounce CODOMAIN, basically because it is not in any dictionary with transcriptions. Where is the stress?
And by the way, the adjective or noun "CONJUGATE", as in "complex conjugate", is it "con-juh-guh-t" or "con-juh-gate"?

Thanks