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Re: Cote D'livore

Conchita57 — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:25:21 GMT

What happened to my previous post?? It looks like a joke, but I swear I didn't mean for all those fancy symbols to appear! It was supposed to make things clearer, but I'm afraid it's all tangled up now. Well, let me try again:

Except for the 'c', which should indeed be a 'k', Iâm using the phonetic symbols Iâve used all my life, as I learnt them 35 years ago from the Oxford Progressive English Course, by A. S. Hornby (EFL/ESL coursebooks have come a long way since then!). If you replace my âoâ and 'o:' with [ ] and [ÉË], it should be less confusing for you.

The French âoâ in âCÃ´teâ isnât a diphthong â it rhymes with âcaughtâ in RP. The ProvenÃ§als, however, say it as âcotâ in RP.

Re: Cote D'livore

Conchita57 — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:08:17 GMT

Marvin A. wrote:
>> Now, said with a Southern French accent, it becomes [cot] <<
>> The sound I meant is [o:] as in RP or Standard British English. <<

Now you're really confusing me. Are you using IPA, or similar system for transcription? The letter "c" in the IPA, X-SAMPA, and Kirshenbaum transcription systems is a voiceless palatal plosive, that is only found in Hungarian. The letter "o" in IPA is the "o" sound in the word "coat" in North Central dialects of NAE--most dialects of England English use a diphthong for the "o" sound. The vowel that is used to transcribe the "au" in "caught" in RP is not /o:/, but is /ÉË/, the long open-mid back rounded vowel.

[cot] (I'm assuming /kot/), would be how someone from Minnesota pronounces the word "coat". It is not how an RP speaker pronounces the word "cot".

The [ ] and / / marks represent IPA or X-SAMPA transcription.

I would pronounce "cote d'ivoire" as /kot divwA/.

Except for the , which should indeed be a , Iâm using the phonetic symbols Iâve used all my life, as I learnt them 35 years ago from the Oxford Progressive English Course, by A. S. Hornby (EFL/ESL coursebooks have come a long way since then!). If you replace my âoâ in and [o:] with [ ] and [ÉË], it should be less confusing for you.

The French âoâ in âCÃ´teâ isnât a diphthong â it rhymes with âcaughtâ in RP. The ProvenÃ§als, however, say it as âcotâ in RP.

Re: Cote D'livore

Marvin A. — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:18:56 GMT

>> Now, said with a Southern French accent, it becomes [cot] <<
>> The sound I meant is [o:] as in RP or Standard British English. <<

Now you're really confusing me. Are you using IPA, or similar system for transcription? The letter "c" in the IPA, X-SAMPA, and Kirshenbaum transcription systems is a voiceless palatal plosive, that is only found in Hungarian. The letter "o" in IPA is the "o" sound in the word "coat" in North Central dialects of NAE--most dialects of England English use a diphthong for the "o" sound. The vowel that is used to transcribe the "au" in "caught" in RP is not /o:/, but is /ÉË/, the long open-mid back rounded vowel.

[cot] (I'm assuming /kot/), would be how someone from Minnesota pronounces the word "coat". It is not how an RP speaker pronounces the word "cot".

The [ ] and / / marks represent IPA or X-SAMPA transcription.

I would pronounce "cote d'ivoire" as /kot divwA/.

Re: Cote D'livore

Conchita57 — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:21:03 GMT

Marvin A. wrote:
>> [co:t] (as in 'caught') <<

Hmmm. Do you actually mean a tense vowel? Not many people pronounce "caught" with /o/. In fact, in Western North America, it's actually pronounced /kAt/. In RP, I believe it's something like /O:/.

I knew I should have specified! The sound I meant is [o:] as in RP or Standard British English.

Now, said with a Southern French accent, it becomes [cot] (as in 'cot' -- again, in British English) with a small schwa a the end of both words.

Re: Cote D'livore

Marvin A. — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 03:28:25 GMT

>> [co:t] (as in 'caught') <<

Hmmm. Do you actually mean a tense vowel? Not many people pronounce "caught" with /o/. In fact, in Western North America, it's actually pronounced /kAt/. In RP, I believe it's something like /O:/.

Re: Cote D'livore

Conchita57 — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:36:51 GMT

Anonymous wrote:
I saw that someone said that CÃ´te d'Ivoire is the french name for the Ivory Coast but actually, the governement of CÃ´te d'Ivoire says that in all lauguages it should be called CÃ´te d'Ivoire rather than the Ivory Coast. Even though CÃ´te d'Ivoire translates to Ivory Coast, the government of CÃ´te d'Ivoire requests it is called CÃ´te d'Ivoire. just an fyi

I wonder if anyone complies with this request, which was made quite a few years ago. In Spanish, the name CÃ´te d'Ivoire is also (and still) literally translated as 'Costa de Marfil'.

By the way, and unless you want to say it with an English accent (which is cute, of course), CÃ´te d'Ivoire is pronounced [co:t] (as in 'caught') [di'vwa:R], bearing in mind that the French 'r' is guttural and consonants in that language are much gentler than their English counterparts.

Re: Cote D'livore

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:52:51 GMT

I saw that someone said that CÃ´te d'Ivoire is the french name for the Ivory Coast but actually, the governement of CÃ´te d'Ivoire says that in all lauguages it should be called CÃ´te d'Ivoire rather than the Ivory Coast. Even though CÃ´te d'Ivoire translates to Ivory Coast, the government of CÃ´te d'Ivoire requests it is called CÃ´te d'Ivoire. just an fyi

Re: Cote D'livore

adomi — Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:25:21 GMT

Hi Sessered,
The spelling actually is COTE D' IVOIRE, and it's not a city, but a country(unless there is a city there with bears the same name )
For the pronunciation, well, I'm not good at phonetic but it go like this:

COTE = COAT as in coat
D'IVOIRE = DEE as in Bruce Lee, but with a D or simply the fourth letter of the English alphabet, D. , VOU as in Voodoo, AAR as in the 18th letter on the English alphabet, R.

So it goes like this: COAT D VOU R, or COAT DEE VOUAAR

Re: Cote D'livore

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Sep 2005 04:06:36 GMT

Coat dee-vwarre

Re: Cote D'livore

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Sep 2005 00:25:47 GMT

well how do you pronounce is, like how would you say it?

Re: Cote D'livore

matthewg — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:06:00 GMT

Hi Sess,

"CÃ´te d'Ivoire" is the French name for the Ivory Coast, a region in Africa.

Cote D'livore

sessered — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 01:38:57 GMT

I would like to know if anyone knows how to pronounce "Cote D'livoire" it is a city in Africa