http://www.englishforums.com/English/ControversialTopics/Forum28.htm<b><font color=red>This entire section is moderated</font></b><br> Dedicated to continual re-education and our search for a broader understanding of life. Please register if you wish to post here.enXMOD (Build: 3598.39794)http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#454325Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:18 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:454325Anonymous0http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#454325http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-454325.xmlNow to agree with you wouldn't make for a very good arguement. Just because something is the majority does not make it just or rightious. Think back to the the beginning, nay, most of the 20th century. You were treated and judged by the majority of people by the color of your skin or your beliefs. Though not completely erased from society today I would like to believe that we have come pretty far. Now the issue most promenently attacked today is your sexual orientation. If you believe in love or have ever been truely in love you might say that who they are doesn't matter, that you would do anything for them, give your life for them and their love. To say that we should have rules of who we should fall in love with is is like going to a...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#444563Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:18 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:444563Chris0011http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#444563http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-444563.xmlLet's arrange some country, Atlantic Ocean would be perfect place for an island on which it could be situated - 1000 kilometres from the nearest land. We can put all these homosexual couples there, let them marry each other, have children (if they are able to - maybe they are going to become in a few years time lol). I don't mind homosexual couples, marriages... Put your penis wherever you want but I don't want to see you kissing in public. It's just disgusting. Do not want to be found as nuts ? Hide in your flats and do whatever you want. But when it comes to having a baby (can it be said like that ?) - think about your baby - do you want it to be pointed at school as the one who has two fathers/mothers insted of one of each sex ?...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#444409Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:18 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:444409Mike in Japan2http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#444409http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-444409.xmllolhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#436987Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:436987Ignaz13http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#436987http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-436987.xmlthe nature gives no purpose of homosexual partnerships but we have our own minds and can define ourselves on our own people who are against homosexual partnerships live in the stoneages, are racist or take the laws of the nature a bit too direct. if they love each other the gender does not matter as long as they are happyhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#436977Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:436977Anonymous4http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#436977http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-436977.xmli think that if they truly love each other than let them get married . It is relly non of are consearn what they dohttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#424765Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:424765Bmxbandit5http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/34/zrdh/Post.htm#424765http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-424765.xmlit looks as if there have been many interesting posts about this, I do not have the patience to read them all. But would just like to add one of my thoughts if anyone has time for it: If people of any kind, (who are mentally capable) willingly choose to make a contact with each other, in which they agree to stay with each other as friends/lovers/parents etc.. for their whole life. It is a perfectly innocent, nice and often beautiful thing. I cannot see it doing any harm, even if they are bigamist or Gay or whatever. It strenghthens society and provides stable foundations for children. But what I CANT STAND, and am both confused and disgusted by is the moronity of people who complain that their church is not...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#424241Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:424241Morgan Le Fey6http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#424241http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-424241.xmlPassionate_freak wrote: Deepa wrote: what do you say about the recent homosexual marriages? is it correct? THis is against the nature. Just imagine how the world gonna run if each people turns to this absurd thing ??? Total nonsense Overpopulation finished in one generation. Nature would quite benefit from it.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#419055Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:419055MrPedantic7http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#419055http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-419055.xmlIt would certainly make for some very busy Saturdays. MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#418445Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:418445Forbes8http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#418445http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-418445.xmlI can just imagine it. "Gay marriage! Yeah! I'll have some of that!"http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#417958Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:417958Passionate_freak9http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#417958http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-417958.xmlDeepa wrote: what do you say about the recent homosexual marriages? is it correct? THis is against the nature. Just imagine how the world gonna run if each people turns to this absurd thing ??? Total nonsensehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#415171Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:415171Anonymous10http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#415171http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-415171.xmlWasn't it the Netherlands that was the first country to legalise same-sex marriage?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#415074Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:415074Grammar Geek11http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#415074http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-415074.xmlGood luck with arranging the place cards for the tables... truly one of the most daunting aspects of any wedding!http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#414930Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:414930Forbes12http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#414930http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-414930.xmlDavid wrote: People seem to be moving away from marriage and yet Homosexual marriages are so often discussed. Well, it is sometimes said that these days the only people who want to get married are gays! Perhaps gays will revive the institution!http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#414493Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:414493David13http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#414493http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-414493.xmlThis argument could go on forever. No one is really listening. Forcing ones beliefs down someone's throat hardly makes any sense. We are certainly not here to do anything we like. Hence the law of the land. There are those who indulge in bestiality and child abuse and many other perversions. If you believe in a God all men women are loved by Him whatever their life style. Obviously people believe on religious grounds that homosexual marriages do not make sense. So be it. I tend to agree. However there are some who think otherwise and quote the law of the land. They have every right to their opinions but we must learn to accept and respect another point of view. People seem to be moving away from marriage and yet Homosexual marriages are...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#408432Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:408432LuUu2114http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/33/zrdh/Post.htm#408432http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-408432.xmlReligion has nothing to do with homosexual people. We're talking about freedom, and in these case freedom means everybody can fall in love with whom he/she likes. Then, if two men or women want to get married (they don't need to, but that's the same for heterosexual couple) why can't they not?? "To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness or in health, to love and to cherish 'till death do us part." Two men (or two women) can do this the same. But if the Church doesn't approve the homosexual marriage, then they can get married in the registry office (in some countries, like Spain e.g). The most important thing is that we learn not to interfere in the other's lifes. You are...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#407936Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:407936Morgan Le Fey15http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#407936http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-407936.xmlThe Painkiller wrote: We "the humans" were created by God and given the instructions of our lives, that's why the prophets were sent to us, because as humans our powers are limited as well as our brains. Where is my instructions leaflet? No instructions leaflet was delivered with me. If you say that GOD has created all humans it must follow that He created homosexual and lesbian humans as well as heterosexual. So, in fact, you're criticising God's creation. The prophets are human beings with limited human brains, as human brains go.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#406299Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:406299Anonymous16http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#406299http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-406299.xmlForbes wrote: Wrong! Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_homosexuality There was misunderstanding i guess ... I apologize about it if u didnt get what i mean dude, i meant tow specific religions as it is mentions in the above, maybe i should have not said " in any religion ". Looking for ward to reading your post.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#406273Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:406273Forbes17http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#406273http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-406273.xmlThe Painkiller wrote: ...it is needless to say that homosexuality is not accepted in any of them . Wrong! Have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_homosexualityhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#406143Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:406143The Painkiller18http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#406143http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-406143.xmlThanks for paying attention and replying LuUu21 According to what you say "Using religious statements may be too unwise to use..." We "the humans" were created by God and given the instructions of our lives, that's why the prophets were sent to us, because as humans our powers are limited as well as our brains. Most of people when it comes to Homosexuality topic they say "dont talk in a religious way", Although it is well known in the Christianity and Islam what happened to " the nation of 'lot, ". You could read the religious book "The Bible-King james Version" and Find out how the angels that were sent by god "turned it upsid down and rained on it stone after ston of baked clay" We are not predicting that God considers the...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#405681Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:405681LuUu2119http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#405681http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-405681.xmlHi! I've already seen your post and sorry but It's depressing. Do you know what are you talking about? Who are we to decide what's against the human nature?? The humans!! Since we appeared in the planet we've done nothing but destruction. But that's another topic...too long to talk about. So let's go on with your statement: "2 males are not physically created to have such a sexual relationship". Maybe I'm wrong... (I don't think so) but in my opinion we are living in the planet not only to procreate!! Do you know what the word "love" means??? It's a lot more than having sex and plugging holes... I'm talking about feelings. I've got loads of friends who are homosexual and, despite what some people want to us to think, they're wonderful...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#405427Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:405427The Painkiller20http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#405427http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-405427.xmlI must come too late, i hope i still have the time to participate... It would be shocking for me when i hear someone is saying "Being a homosexual is not agains the human nature" Or "God has nothing to do with this discussion" Or "what's the different between humanbeing and animals" ... without mentioning to any name. As for me, i am not convinced yet and wont be with the idea of being a homo .. and of course the marriage itself between two from the same sex. we are not gonna talk about religion because it is needless to say that homosexuality is not accepted in any of them . Of course that leads us to one thing which is " It is such a forbidden thing " . Forgetting about the religiuous side of the topic, Let's talk...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#405310Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:405310Tidus21http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#405310http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-405310.xml" Homosexual marriages- against the natures law? " No. And simply because 'marriage' is absolutely nothing to do with nature. Marriage is a man made activity.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#404215Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:404215Forbes22http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#404215http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-404215.xmlWyspianska89 wrote: Im hetero and even dont know any gay or lesbian. You do - you just don't know it!http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#403254Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:403254Wyspianska8923http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/32/zrdh/Post.htm#403254http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-403254.xmlLanguageLover wrote: what's the difference between human beings and animals? Dont even compare animals to that situation. Completely senseless. I dont see anything bad in homosexual relationships. If people really love each other, why shouldnt they be together? Does it hurt anyone? Why should they hide their real feelings and orientation? That would be sucks! Im hetero and even dont know any gay or lesbian. It doesnt change fact that im not against them. The only problem can be in fact of children's adoption in such marriages. I even dont say no for it but... our society isnt ready for it yet. Those kids would feel bad when they will hear everywhere insults about their parents. I suppose that in next 40-60 years...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#403239Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:403239Aronika2824http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#403239http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-403239.xmlI am just curious as to the title of this topic...when and how did marriage become "thing of nature"?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#402313Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:402313Anonymous25http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#402313http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-402313.xmlI completely agree with your views.........http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388667Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388667julielai26http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388667http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388667.xmlHi guys, Could we get back to the topic? Thanks. (This is taking a rather unsettling turn.)http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388655Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388655Forbes27http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388655http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388655.xmlWhat I find truly astonishing about the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is that when the citizens of Sodom knocked on Lot's door and asked him to produce the angels "that they might know them", Lot (who remember was a righteous man) offered instead his virgin daughters. Not long after, his wife, not even accorded the diginity of having her name mentioned, was turned into a pillar of salt for the comparatively minor offence of being curious and looking back. Later still, Lot's daughters get him drunk and lie with him and get pregnant. I am not sure what we are supposed to learn from all this. Some suggest that Sodom was destroyed for its failure to show courtesy to strangers. If that is the case the US needs to watch out and make sure it...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388383Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388383Morgan Le Fey28http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388383http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388383.xmlDr Nick Riviera wrote: because God doesn't like h o m o s (or t a b o u l i e). I repeat: HOW DO YOU KNOW? Has anyone, here or anywhere, ever had the opportunity to ask God? How can anyone be so conceited so as to state the she/he/it knows what's in God's mind? God should be left out of this discussion. This is only about prejudices against people for whatever reason. It is exactly the same question as: "Are interracial marriages against nature's law?" or another equally racist and discriminating question.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388377Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388377Morgan Le Fey29http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388377http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388377.xmlForbes wrote: Since angels are incorporeal I am puzzled how anyone can have sex with them. Since they are also sexless, it raises the interesting question of whether, if you could have sex with an angel, it would be gay or straight sex. Forbes: The story runs that the angels had come into the cities as human beings. It doesn't matter what sex they chose. Rape equals murder no matter if the raped person is male or female. What you say is like someone is having sex with the invisible man.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388345Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388345Jane Greco30http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388345http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388345.xmlSeems pretty nasty...raping an angel. Anyway,our goverment forbade a gay-parade in Melbourne last year,which was an awesome fest,everyone used to love it,motivating it by lots of trouble drunk people will cause... Unbelievabely sad. And this is a sucssesful and wealthy democratic country.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388308Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388308Dr Nick Riviera31http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388308http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388308.xmlForbes wrote: Since angels are incorporeal I am puzzled how anyone can have sex with them. Since they are also sexless, it raises the interesting question of whether, if you could have sex with an angel, it would be gay or straight sex. Wow! How do you know all this? Do you know the question for 42? I don't think it would be straight sex - I think there might be a little foreplay. But I don't think it would be Gay either, because God doesn't like h o m o s (or t a b o u l i e).http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388299Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388299Jhumjhum32http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/31/zrdh/Post.htm#388299http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388299.xmlI don't know why some people bring religion everywhere .If most of the population of the world follow their religion strictly the world would become heaven.Most of us don't even get control over anger , cruelty, greed, jealousy,etc. According to me marriage is a bond of love and duty between two persons.If two persons of same sex want to live with each other and can have sexual pleasure what is the problem for society. Many women in many countries are being raped , that is crime,forcible sex is always crime .http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#388148Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388148Forbes33http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#388148http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388148.xmlSince angels are incorporeal I am puzzled how anyone can have sex with them. Since they are also sexless, it raises the interesting question of whether, if you could have sex with an angel, it would be gay or straight sex.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#388080Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388080Morgan Le Fey34http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#388080http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388080.xmlThe Bible describes the devastating end of two cities whose citizens tried to RAPE two angels. RAPE is an unforgivable sin which equals murder.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#388019Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:388019Jane Greco35http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#388019http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-388019.xmlTraditional Christianity sees homosexualism as a terrible sin. As far as I remember Holy Bible describes the devastating end of two ancient cities,populated by homosexuals, Sodom and Homorra( sorry if spelling it wrong) At the same time in modern Lebanon men are permitted to have sex with a female donkey, therefore having sex with a male donkey is considered to be a sin, which shows us that Moslems don't quite fancy the idea... In Bulgaria before 2001 homosexualism was a CRıME,and only short before joining EU they have quickly recognized the rights of a homosexuals. It is not usually welcomed by State or Religion...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#387631Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:387631Morgan Le Fey36http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#387631http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-387631.xmlAnonymous wrote: Homosexuality is an abomination to God. Is it, really? And how do you know? Anonymous wrote: There is only one standard in this world (God the creator). . God the creator, truly. Are you saying that God did not create gay people the same way He created the rest of us? Or maybe that God delighted in creating an abomination?. Homosexuality is not an abomination. Isabellahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#387625Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:387625Morgan Le Fey37http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#387625http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-387625.xmlPucca wrote: Isabella, are you really having a baby from your homosexual friend? That reminds me to that serie, "Aquí no hay quien viva" , it might be fun if he is similar to the boy of the serie! We did talk about it, yes. If we decide to do it, there's no Law on Earth that will stop us from doing it. So I would be mum, he would be daddy, and his boyfriend would be uncle X. I can't see what's so strange about that. He is a very good and caring man and he would make an excellent father.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#387067Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:387067Anonymous38http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#387067http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-387067.xmlit is not correct.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#386256Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:386256Forbes39http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#386256http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-386256.xmlIf you live in a country with a cold climate it is unwise to go outside immediately after you have had a bath. So, if you have a religion founded in a such a country (we'll call it "Odinism") it may well contain a rule: Thou shalt not go forth from thy dwelling until an hour has passed from thy bathing Such a rule would have no application in a hot and humid climate, but a follower of Odinism may regard it as a sacred rule handed down by Odin and, if he went and lived in, say, Sri Lanka, follow the rule strictly and insist that all followers of the religion in Sri Lanka obeyed the rule. If he obtained power in Sri Lanka he might go so far as pass a law forbidding the citizens of Sri Lanka, whether Odinists or not, to go outside...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#385851Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:385851Anonymous40http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#385851http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-385851.xmlThen by your reasoning of morals; if someone wants to murder groups of people, because their moral belief is that it is OK and that there should be no penalty imposed because they think they are ridding the world of undesirable humans, it would be OK. Morals are no relative, they are definitive. The only morals are God's Law in His Word the Bible. All of the laws that benefit you and protect you are based on the giving of Laws from God to his people. Homosexuality is an abomination to God. The people who engage in it al loved by God. Just like lying or stealing is an abomination. God hates all sin, but he still loves the sinner. Now, if someone doe not even believe that there is a God, then he see no accountability to God and do not...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#385375Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:385375Kooyeen41http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/30/zrdh/Post.htm#385375http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-385375.xmlPucca wrote: Kooyeen, we'll never agree, will we? Nooo, why? I think we agreed a couple of times, didn't we?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#385158Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:385158Pucca42http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#385158http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-385158.xmlKooyeen wrote: I can't agree, Kooyeen, we'll never agree, will we? Isabella, are you really having a baby from your homosexual friend? That reminds me to that serie, "Aquí no hay quien viva" , it might be fun if he is similar to the boy of the serie!http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384884Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:384884Forbes43http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384884http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-384884.xmlMorgan Le Fey wrote: It was censored in my post, too. I am as surprised as you are Just for the record I know the censorship is automated and presumably comes as a package with the forum. I have no problem with censoring some words that many would find obscene or blasphemous, though I am inclined to think it is silly. I can just about tolerate not being able to refer to male chickens and certain features of drainage systems, but the censored word is perfectly respectable and quite apart from anything else refers to a native of Lesbos. If the moderators have any control over the censorship thingy can they please go and put a tick against the word in question (or as the case may be take the tick off)? Failing that, can they...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384856Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:384856Morgan Le Fey44http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384856http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-384856.xmlForbes wrote: In the previous post a *** is a female homosexual. I cannot imagine why that word is censored. It really is quite unacceptable. Forbes: It was censored in my post, too. I am as surprised as you are. Please don't include me in "everyone is talking about procreation". What I said is that there is nothing wrong in marrying the person you love.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384676Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:384676Forbes45http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384676http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-384676.xmlIn the previous post a *** is a female homosexual. I cannot imagine why that word is censored. It really is quite unacceptable.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384673Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:384673Forbes46http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384673http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-384673.xmlGays do not of course need to get married to earn respect, but it is one of the reasons for having same-sex marriage. Everyone keeps harping on about procreation, yet those who do have failed to respond to my question about a man and woman getting married when one of them is infertile. If someone does not respond soon I am going to have to assume it is because they have no answer to the question. One of the most important reasons for having gay marriage is to give same sex partners the same rights that heterosexual married couples take for granted. Imagine what it must be like for a partner of somone dying to be denied hopsital visiting rights because the family objects. As for adoption, in practice some children are already...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384646Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:384646Morgan Le Fey47http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384646http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-384646.xmlPucca wrote: ..seems that you are all against homosexual marriages except me, won't I be defended? You're not the only one. Gays and lesbians are people and should have the same rights as the rest of the people. A child of either sex brought up by a gay couple or a *** couple will be homosexual or not exactly the same as any other child brought up by an heterosexual couple. In fact I think that a female child brought up with two gay parents has many more chances to be happy and safe than any female child growing up in a traditional family where the father is a sex obsessed child molester. And I would like to know who is going to stop me having a child with my best gay friend if we decide to have it, and be as...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384599Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:384599Kooyeen48http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384599http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-384599.xmlPucca wrote: ...and, what does "normal" mean? A family composed by a father, a mather and a child? I think that's not normal either, that's what you are used to, that's what you have always seeing but, you don't know if it is normal, do you? Hi Ana , I can't agree, I really don't think a homosexual couple with some children would be normal at all. You would tolerate homosexual families? I wouldn't... What you say implies that homosexual families would become normal once we get used to them... Well, to show you my point, I wrote some funny examples for you, but the mods deleted my post! They probably didn't think my examples and jokes were so good. If I go on like this I'll soon find myself beginning my posts with "G'day Ana"... LOLhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384212Fri, 08 May 2009 08:13:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:384212Pucca49http://www.englishforums.com/English/HomosexualMarriagesAgainstNatures/29/zrdh/Post.htm#384212http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-384212.xmlJane Greco wrote: I had known quite a few gay-couples, none of them wanted to get married .... Maybe that's because they have not find the right person yet, it happens with heterosexual couples aswell, doesn't it? ..seems that you are all against homosexual marriages except me, won't I be defended?