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Why, wasn’t death the consequence of sin, according to Bible? Weren’t all creatures before the Fall sinless, hence immortal? (I just wondered about why creationists don’t accept evolution as God’s activity, and this post seemed an explanation to me).http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#299935Mon, 25 May 2009 08:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:299935Mister Micawber1http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#299935http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-299935.xmlThey said that death (for Christians) is unnatural, Irene?-- that forum hosts some very odd Christians.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#299872Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:299872Irene L2http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#299872http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-299872.xmlNona The Brit wrote: There is no conflict to any normal Christian about creation/evolution as they just see evolution as God's way of getting things done. I was surprised to learn from another forum that Christians shouldn’t accept the evolution as God’s way of doing things because of the interpretation of death. Death is natural and necessary for evolution, but it supposed to be unnatural for Christians, since it’s a consequence of human’s sin. Though it seems to be difficult to imagine all those various species of predators were initially designed to munch vegs and grasshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#299755Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:299755MrPedantic3http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#299755http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-299755.xml&lt;...the work of chance...&gt; Strictly speaking, evolution doesn't depend wholly on chance: genetic variants arise, some of which are better suited to survival under their prevailing local conditions, and so are more likely to produce offspring. MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#299414Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:299414Anonymous4http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#299414http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-299414.xmlAnonymous wrote: I prefer to have faith in the inherent goodness of things. Goodness as represented by God. I have also have faith in the goodness of all things. just not as represented by God. I think every person can be good if they choose to be, and if they are taught to be. On topic, I dnt think people should be scared of evolution. There's proof (e.g.skeletons and such). Whether you believe it to be the work of God, or the work of chance is a very personal choice, and both sides should be given to children. But perhaps this is easier said than done!http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#270196Mon, 25 May 2009 08:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:270196Feathers5http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/5/dcxgd/Post.htm#270196http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-270196.xmlAperisic wrote: I'll repeat the post, but I have to rewrite it. I got really interested in your view, Aperisic, so I'd be grateful if you kindly take time to repeat the post. You write, talkatively, having readers follow the course of your thought. I got such an impressionhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#270162Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:270162MrPedantic6http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#270162http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-270162.xmlAnd if we are the accident of the Universe then why we are talking about anything at all? Why we want to understand anything when there is nothing to be understood. I am then just a passing fluctuation so who cares what I am saying (if there is anything like saying ). Just to clarify a little: Darwin's theory of evolution doesn't deal with either the origin of the universe or the origin of life on earth. But of course there are plenty of subsequent theories that do. (Billie, can you point those things somewhere else? They're making me nervous. And what have you done with Threepod, by the way?) MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#270064Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:270064Aperisic7http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#270064http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-270064.xmlSorry Asperesic, that deletion was an error. Don't bother yourself about it. I could be wrong as well. Maybe I submitted it as a duplicate forgetting to copy a long discussion from the Word document I wrote. I was teasing you a little bit (or the one who deleted it). But, if you did not respond now then there would have been a grave problem not for you and for me but for this entire world. I'll repeat the post, but I have to rewrite it. Do not be troubled, please ... I had to examine what went wrong using all tolls I had on me. I truly believe you didn't do it purposely, but in general a deletion of a normal post is almost a crime. If you think that is a good thing as well, you can delete the post where I am accusing you or...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#270043Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:270043nona the brit8http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#270043http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-270043.xmlSorry Asperesic, that deletion was an error. I looked at the post but thought it merely contained a duplicate of your previous post, not a new comment as well. It can get a bit confusing when most of the post IS a duplicate due to a long quotation of a previous post. We do get a lot of duplicate posts here as it is easily done - I've made duplicate postings myself in error and had to delete the extras. As this was not actually a duplicate, I apologise, and would encourage you to repeat the post. I can assure you that I have no reason to lie about the reason I deleted it nor any special interest in your opinions on evolution etc. There was no element of censorship in my action yet you have leapt to some rather insulting conclusions...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269965Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269965Feathers9http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269965http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269965.xmlBillie The Big Aircraft Carrier wrote: Arrrrr... we're all almost American these days aren'ts we? What's a bit of pirate between friends? Now, get ye back to the yard arm before I have ye walking the plank! Yarrrr matey! How be ye doin'? (I've found just now that September 19th is International Talk Like A Pirate Day! English-to-Pirate Translator )http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269937Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269937Feathers10http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269937http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269937.xml...??! What do you mean, Billie..? Billie The Big Aircraft Carrier wrote: Now, where were we? Ah yes, that limp-wristed evolution business. I'm not sure what you mean, Billie. BTW, you're still looking for that imp? ;- )http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269935Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269935J Lewis11http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269935http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269935.xmlBillie, I don't like aggressive imperialistic talk any more than you do, but I don't think you're going to convince anybody with a torrent of sarcasm.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269929Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269929Aperisic12http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269929http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269929.xmlFeathers wrote: Hello all, Sorry if I'm getting off the subject, but there's one thing which keeps bothering me when it comes to this kind of question: every man is endowed with reason, the power of understanding, and the capacity of language. Logic/mathematics has been developed along with our evolution? Isn't it simply impossible? I cannot think of language as a human invention either. Aperisic wrote: Whatever, a dolphin wouldn’t change my point. The theory or concept or hypothesis proven and unproven, it is not that important for what I want to say. The truth is always beautiful. What I do want to say about the troubling point in the theory of evolution - it is not that we have technically a common design to many...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269855Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269855Billie the big aircraft carrier13http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269855http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269855.xmlArrrrr... we're all almost American these days aren'ts we? What's a bit of pirate between friends? Now, get ye back to the yard arm before I have ye walking the plank!http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269827Mon, 25 May 2009 08:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269827Feathers14http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/4/dcxgd/Post.htm#269827http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269827.xmlOh, I've never thought that you are American.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269782Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269782Billie the big aircraft carrier15http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269782http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269782.xmlCome on, me hearties! Can't we talk about some really important stuff, like why America is frightened of starting a few dozen new wars? Or is it that we have run out of countries to fight with... hrrr... Let's all give ourselves a good swift uppercut! Ah, that's better! Now, where were we? Ah yes, that limp-wristed evolution business. Heave-ho!http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269632Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269632Feathers16http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269632http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269632.xmlHello all, Sorry if I'm getting off the subject, but there's one thing which keeps bothering me when it comes to this kind of question: every man is endowed with reason, the power of understanding, and the capacity of language. Logic/mathematics has been developed along with our evolution? Isn't it simply impossible? I cannot think of language as a human invention either. Aperisic wrote: Whatever, a dolphin wouldn’t change my point. The theory or concept or hypothesis proven and unproven, it is not that important for what I want to say. The truth is always beautiful. What I do want to say about the troubling point in the theory of evolution - it is not that we have technically a common design to many other creatures in this...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269625Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269625Aperisic17http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269625http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269625.xmlMrPedantic wrote: Aperisic wrote: The troubling point is in the belief that the development had happened on its own, by chance, by exhausting all others more or less temporary possibilities. Now that's the part of the theory of evolution that appeals to me. It's the knowledge that when I fill a bucket with water, it will inevitably find its way out through the pinhole in the side. MrP Precisely, the theory says that the water is able as well not to pass at all to start and stop to start for some time and then go back to start and go back with all possible regular and irregular patterns to start to pass infinitely slow to exit at the speed of light and all other possibility that...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269610Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269610MrPedantic18http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269610http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269610.xmlAperisic wrote: The troubling point is in the belief that the development had happened on its own, by chance, by exhausting all others more or less temporary possibilities. Now that's the part of the theory of evolution that appeals to me. It's the knowledge that when I fill a bucket with water, it will inevitably find its way out through the pinhole in the side. MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269274Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:58:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269274Aperisic19http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269274http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269274.xmlNona The Brit wrote: 1) Evolution doesn't say that we developed from monkeys/apes. 2) The word 'theory' when used in a scientific context, for example 'Darwin's theory of evolution' or 'Einstein's theory of relativity' has a different meaning to 'theory' used in general life. The scientific use of theory means 'a collection of connected scientific facts as we currently understand them'. The scientific 'hypothesis' is similar in meaning to the general use of 'theory'. A hypothesis has to be tested before it becomes a theory. Whatever, a dolphin wouldn’t change my point. The theory or concept or hypothesis proven and unproven, it is not that important for what I want to say. The truth is always beautiful. What I do...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269265Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269265Ja-Mez20http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269265http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269265.xmlAperisic wrote: It is just a theory and a very humiliating one: it says that my ancestors were monkeys. Yes... I would think that the monkeys would be more humiliated to be linked to such fools as us humans, who are systematically tearing our world apart, bomb by bomb, anti-Muslim quote by anti-Muslim quote. It is not "just" a theory... It can be scientifically proven. Can you say the same about God creating the world?http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269093Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269093MrPedantic21http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269093http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269093.xmlAperisic wrote: All I would like to know is who and why decided that the theory of evolution is advanced in any form. It is just a theory and a very humiliating one: it says that my ancestors were monkeys. To be more accurate, the theory of common descent predicts that modern monkeys and Homo sapiens have a common ancestor. This seems to have been borne out by recent research: chimpanzee and human DNA is 96% identical, according to an item in the journal Nature , in August 2005. But there are a few differences, e.g. in the genes that relate to sexual reproduction, brain development, and the sense of smell. (So good news for chimpanzees...) MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269080Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269080nona the brit22http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269080http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269080.xml1) Evolution doesn't say that we developed from monkeys/apes. 2) The word 'theory' when used in a scientific context, for example 'Darwin's theory of evolution' or 'Einstein's theory of relativity' has a different meaning to 'theory' used in general life. The scientific use of theory means 'a collection of connected scientific facts as we currently understand them'. The scientific 'hypothesis' is similar in meaning to the general use of 'theory'. A hypothesis has to be tested before it becomes a theory.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269068Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269068Aperisic23http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/3/dcxgd/Post.htm#269068http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-269068.xmlAll I would like to know is who and why decided that the theory of evolution is advanced in any form. It is just a theory and a very humiliating one: it says that my ancestors were monkeys. I truly believe that if one believes that once upon a time we came from God or someone who is smart, intelligent, lovable… it will make one a better person. Far better. And that is more important than all sciences and theories in this world together. And it is not only the theory of evolution that counts in the same direction: The progress of the human kind will not be brought by a bright mind, yet a pure heart. A pure heart has a bright mind. The opposite belief is a grave omission of the latest civilization. And if it's so then better be we are...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268888Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:268888J Lewis24http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268888http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-268888.xmlI'm glad to read that a vast number of Americans do not reject evolution. The question remains as to why it is often the most ignorant, bone-headed people who decide for a more intelligent majority. The frivolous reply is that the intelligent can adapt to the stupid and not vice versa. A more serious reply is that to oppose a power that uses ignorance as its weapon you need active participation and lively debate between people, exchange of ideas. The debate over evolution theory strongly involves politics; it's not enough to show that logic is on your side. This problem does not involve only the USA; we Europeans have long looked on the low participation in US elections, but also in Britain now Tony Blair has succeeded in reducing...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268886Mon, 25 May 2009 08:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:268886Ja-Mez25http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268886http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-268886.xmlThat was me, by the way... Sorry, I forgot to log in.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268883Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:268883Grammar Geek26http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268883http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-268883.xmlWow. I just read the links provided by Mr. P. I'm depressed now. 48% of the people think that people were just plopped down as-is, completely in the face of scientific discoveries to the contrary. Maybe the 2000 people they surveyed were in the Bible Belt. On a side note, I do enjoy the passage in which is says that Adam named all the animals. I wonder what he was thinking when he got to the duck-billed platypus.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268789Mon, 25 May 2009 08:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:268789Anonymous27http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268789http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-268789.xmlEnglishuser wrote: Hi nona the brit, You wrote: That is a depressing fact. What's so depressing about it? Not to steal nona's thunder or anything.... But I venture to say that Nona finds it depressing because America is supposedly the most advanced country in the world, with the highest technology and the greatest resources, the brightest young minds, etc etc etc...and yet only 28% of them (us, whatever, heh) believe in the scientific explanation of evolution? A few discrepancies here maybe?http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268569Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:268569MrPedantic28http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268569http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-268569.xmlHello GG I don't know about the source of the 28% figure, but I found these, which have some interesting figures: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/22/opinion/polls/main965223.shtml http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/31/national/31religion.html?ex=1283140800&amp;en=39489e707718912f&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268526Mon, 25 May 2009 08:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:268526Englishuser29http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268526http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-268526.xmlHi nona the brit, You wrote: That is a depressing fact. What's so depressing about it?http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268447Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:268447Grammar Geek30http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#268447http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-268447.xmlWhat is the source of the poll that says that only 28% of Americans believe in evolution? I find that almost impossible to believe. What it truly a nation-wide poll, or just some little segment deep in the Bible-belt? (Having said that, I sat in a Sunday school class to hear the leader say "Can you believe there are actually people out there who believe we descended from apes?" as if it were shocking. Rather than raising my hand and saying "Yeah, and I'm one of them!" I found a different class, and in fact no longer attend that church. But in relating that story to others, the result was universally shock. It wasn't that 3 out of 4 people agreed with the Sunday School leader and only 1 in 4 agreed with me. Everyone was shocked.) I'd...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#267870Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:267870MrPedantic31http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#267870http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-267870.xmlKarlosTheJackal wrote: 28% of americans believe in evolution; thats the lowest of al developed nations by some distance. It would be disconcerting if only 28% of American scientists accepted the Theory of Evolution as a well established theory. But in fact, most US scientists do accept it. I'd be interested to know whether any modern governments ban the teaching of the ToE in schools. I believe Darwinists were not favoured under Stalin, for instance (he preferred Lamarckian evolution). MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#267624Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:267624Welkins213932http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/2/dcxgd/Post.htm#267624http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-267624.xmlJulielai wrote: I'm sure many of you have read/watched "Inherit the Wind". Julie, I saw the movie as well as read the book. That book is definitely a drama type. It is a very good play. It is about science versus religion. I think it was a school teacher who taught about Darwin in school. He was being persecuted. I think the setting was about in early 20th century. One scene I still remeber someone said the Earth was only four thousands years according in the Bible. But the geolgists thought otherwise. I think the school teacher was found innocent in the endhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#267244Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:267244julielai33http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#267244http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-267244.xmlMrPedantic wrote: You probably already know these documents from Kitzmiller vs Dover; but I'll post the link here, in case anyone else is interested: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/kitzmiller_v_dover.html One click on the link is enough to freeze my computer. Are you sure there isn't some mysterious force at work here?http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#267242Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:267242julielai34http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#267242http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-267242.xmlI'm sure many of you have read/watched "Inherit the Wind". I have to live in a place where folks are still trying to put intelligent design back in the science curriculum. Poor me.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#267214Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:267214MrPedantic35http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#267214http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-267214.xmlHello KJ You probably already know these documents from Kitzmiller vs Dover; but I'll post the link here, in case anyone else is interested: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/kitzmiller_v_dover.html You don't often come across ID proponents in the UK, so I find the whole case intriguing. MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#267122Mon, 25 May 2009 08:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:267122Catalan Boy36http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#267122http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-267122.xmlThis is a think that I can't understand. My country is very relogious too, and the conservative party is every time stronger (even though it's like a Franco reflection), but I believe that anyone here could think that the bible theories about adam &amp; eva are true. I hope that democrats will win the next elections in the USA...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#266870Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:266870Ja-Mez37http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#266870http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-266870.xmlIt makes me ashamed to call myself American.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#265514Sat, 25 Apr 2009 08:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:265514nona the brit38http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#265514http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-265514.xmlThat is a depressing fact.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#265388Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:265388KarlosTheJackal39http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#265388http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-265388.xml28% of americans believe in evolution; thats the lowest of al developed nations by some distance.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#264564Mon, 25 May 2009 08:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:264564nona the brit40http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htm#264564http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-264564.xmlI'm just reading a book about the development of evolution theory (and something on creationism/intelligent design) and I had the same reaction when I heard about the schools in parts of America. However, most Americans do not feel this way, so it's a bit unfair to generalise that 'America is afraid of evolution'. Even in Kansas, I believe they started teaching intelligent design in science along with evolution, rather than instead of it. This is still a wrong-headed thing to do though, rather like insisting that religious education classes start teaching evolution theory alongside Genesis! There is no scientific basis behind intelligent design so it should not be taught in the same way as science. There is no conflict to any normal...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htmWed, 25 Feb 2009 09:58:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:264540KarlosTheJackal41http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyAmericaFrightenedEvolution/dcxgd/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-264540.xmlIn August of 1999, the teaching of evolution in schools was banned by the state of Kansas. Since last year in Texas, educators have debated over which textbooks to use in grade school science solely by the language of evolution each text contains. And today in Georgia, educators talk about replacing the word "evolution" with the phrase "biological changes over time." Apparently, Americas apprehensions about teaching the theory of evolution are popping up all over the news. In hearing these debates, one usually thinks that it is only religious groups or fanatics trying to preserve their stories by eradicating the teaching of evolution. However, I think that culturally America has trouble accepting the theory of evolution because of...