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Please register if you wish to post here.enXMOD (Build: 3616.28671)http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/3/dmxnr/Post.htm#742179Fri, 22 May 2009 09:17:42 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:742179Clive Woodward0http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/3/dmxnr/Post.htm#742179http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-742179.xmlAnyone wanting to investigate things thoroughly may benefit from a bit of research on one Albert Pike.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/10/dmxnr/Post.htm#737854Tue, 19 May 2009 15:00:59 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:737854HolyBrat1http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/10/dmxnr/Post.htm#737854http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-737854.xmlNo. That is impossible. The German Constitution manifests a democratic system. The declaration of a prohibition for a certain group of people to reproduce is illegal, even if it&#39;s the Hitler Family, which, by the way has no decendants. Everyone got killed or killed themselves knowing that life after that would not be possible.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#698261Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:16:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:698261Adrenochrome2http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#698261http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-698261.xmlRay Hitler came to power because the Nazi Party had more seats in government than another party and In January 1933, Hitler became Chancellor (the German President/Prime Minister) when he became leader of the Nazi Party. This is identical to the UK today. Tony Blair was leader when Labour attained more seats in government than any other party. He retired and Gordon Brown is now Prime Minister. There need be no new election to change leader. As for wikipedia - it is frequently misleading and some times ridiculously wrong. Here, however, you have been mislead by European government terminology. Hindenburg was not in control and was reluctant to lose power, but his party were losing confidence in him. He tried to unify...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#698244Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:18:27 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:698244RayH3http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#698244http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-698244.xmlHitler was democratically elected in Germany, You really should check your facts. I didn&#39;t bother reading the rest of your post but I shudder to think what else you have wrong. This is from the Wikipedia article on Hitler: &quot;Finally, the president reluctantly agreed to appoint Hitler Chancellor of a coalition government formed by the NSDAP and DNVP.&quot; See the full article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Rise_to_power If you don&#39;t believe Wikipedia there are any number of other sources with the correct history on Hitler&#39;s rise to power. Have a look.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#697956Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:18:48 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:697956Adrenochrome4http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#697956http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-697956.xmlFear was not such a factor as you might think. Hitler was democratically elected in Germany, he did not actually steal power. After the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, Germany was blamed for the first World War and punished extremely severely, which the British government opposed. During the 1920s the proud and once strong country was plunged into desperation and starvation. This led to the people being open to extremist ideas. The German people were well aware of the concentration camps (a form of detention invented by the British in Africa), and many supported the idea of taking Jewish property and wealth. Just like Mugabes people in Zimbabwe, who have taken the farms and plantations from the white africans and ran them into the...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#697914Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:54:33 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:697914Doll5http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#697914http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-697914.xmlWell, I don&#39;t know. Maybe they really didn&#39;t know what actually happened or they were afraid to oppose to it.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#696064Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:48:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:696064Adrenochrome6http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#696064http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-696064.xmlDoll Through adapting concentration camps into death camps, Hitlers hardcore troops (the SS) murdered 16 million people. The first to be killed were Russian soldiers, for whom the gas chambers used for mass exterminations were originally designed. Along with Russians, many other peoples were killed, most notably Jews (about 35% of the total dead), homosexuals (3%), disabled (4%), Romany Gypsies (5%) and Slavs (20%). Most German citizens were unaware of what was happening as these camps were in remote parts of Germany and Poland.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#528779Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:528779Dew 20077http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#528779http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-528779.xmlWe shouldn&#39;t focus - we should never forget. And the memories should live for ever. Focusing may sometimes lead to unnecessary confrontation.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#517457Mon, 25 May 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:517457optilang8http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#517457http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-517457.xmlIt&#39;s important to focus on the past so that we can learn from our mistakes and try to ensure that this kind of atrocity never happens again.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#517444Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:517444Pidr1nhu9http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#517444http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-517444.xmlYou should be focusing on paving the way for a better world rather than confronting the past and, unfortunately, its tragedies.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#418434Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:418434Devil_god210110http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/9/dmxnr/Post.htm#418434http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-418434.xmlWell we all know he killed 6 million people but who knows why?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#417065Mon, 25 May 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:417065Anonymous11http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#417065http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-417065.xmlactually Hitler killed 11 million people, 6 million Jews and 5 million people from other ethnic groups. ok?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371785Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371785MrPedantic12http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371785http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371785.xmlThe picture has now been removed, so any further discussion of its provenance is irrelevant. Please feel free to start a fresh thread on Pol Pot's photographic skills, of course. Many thanks for your cooperation... MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371721Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371721Stannum13http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371721http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371721.xmlAnonymous wrote: Stannum wrote: Dear Anonymous, Is what relevant? (This is like an out-take from Idiocracy.) "Is what relevant?" Yes, what is relevant! What is being depicted here! What is being depicted here? Is it an ugly example of Pol Pot's creative photographic skills? Dear Anonymous, You seem to be criticising me for not understanding your non responsive diatribe lacking focus more tightly defined than 'it'. I asked you a genuine question. The subject under discussion is extraordinarily complex and I still do not know which part of that discussion you are discussing and I am now confused even further as I did not know that Pol Pot employed any creative photographic skills (how do you even know...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371414Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371414Sara Straight & Tall14http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371414http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371414.xmlStannum wrote: Jet Jaguar wrote: So I wanted to know if JEWS DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST.I heard somewhere that JEWS DIED in the HOLOCAUST.But im not sure.Please explain. I just wanted to remind the forum that the original thread poster has contributed exactly one post to this forum. One post from a really confused questioner from who knows where and now we find ourselves at each other's throat. What a fascinating development that a blind drunk Blind Freddy in a coal cellar at midnight with his head up a black cat's bum could have seen coming. Names of the Holocaust The term holocaust originally derivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371385Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371385Sara Straight & Tall15http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371385http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371385.xmlStannum wrote: I can not swear to express my feelings but I see that people have displayed photographs some of the dead victims so I could say !@#$% ^&amp;*()_+ intil the cows come home and it would be less intense than the one damned blink I was cursed with before I scrolled past it. I did not kill anybody and I spit on anybody who suppports anybody who did and I do not deserve to be subjected to those photos. I understand why the poster posted the photos but I am sad that I saw them as it will take months to wash their intensity from my mind. Why are such photographs not considered to be pornographic? Why are such photographs not at least as offensive as a clevage and bottom glossy of plastic imperfection? Stannum ...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371219Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371219Alexa For Australia16http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371219http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371219.xmlStannum wrote: Anonymous wrote: Is this a photo taken while the camp was controlled by Germans, Britains, Americans, or Russians? Thanks Why do you ask? Thanks. Stannum Hi Stannum, I know you haven't asked, but the photo belongs to: Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum Ul. Wiezniow Oswiecimia 20 Oswiezim Poland. http://www/auschwitz.org.pl I've no doubt it'll be erased, as Mr Pedantic clearly admonishes.. I understand as little as you do what does it matter which army was in charge of the camp. In fact it was no army. It was the SS. I don't see either why Sara should apologize to anyone; the ones who should offer an apology are the killers. The photo was captioned Auschwitz 1,...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371208Mon, 25 May 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371208MrPedantic17http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371208http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371208.xmlCould I remind all posters that: 1. If a person chooses to post anonymously, it is not necessarily for negative reasons. 2. Not every poster has full access to all the historical materials. 3. Not every poster has full access to the Internet. 4. A question is a request for knowledge. If you choose to answer questions, your job is to provide knowledge, not to comment adversely on the lack of it. 5. Further speculation about other posters' motives in posting will be deleted . 6. Any links to, or quotations from, other websites should be fully credited. 7. Any images and their sources should be fully captioned and credited. Nonetheless, they may well be deleted on review (please refer to the Guidelines for posting in...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371133Mon, 25 May 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371133Anonymous18http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371133http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371133.xmlStannum wrote: Dear Anonymous, Is what relevant? (This is like an out-take from Idiocracy.) "Is what relevant?" Yes, what is relevant! What is being depicted here! What is being depicted here? Is it an ugly example of Pol Pot's creative photographic skills?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371106Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371106Stannum19http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/8/dmxnr/Post.htm#371106http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371106.xmlAnonymous wrote: Well, you have answered a question with a question, so I will in turn ask you; don't you think it is relevant? Dear Anonymous, Is what relevant? To which it do you so eloquently refer? Stannumhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371099Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371099Anonymous20http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371099http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371099.xmlDon't you think it might be considered more than slightly disrespectful to the souls and descendents of the departed to show photos of their corpses without even captioning the photos? I find it quite offensive, and demand that the poster offer an apololgy! Edited to add: This is Anon2--a different anonymous.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371096Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371096Anonymous21http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371096http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371096.xmlWell, you have answered a question with a question, so I will in turn ask you; don't you think it is relevant?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371081Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371081Stannum22http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371081http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371081.xmlAnonymous wrote: Is this a photo taken while the camp was controlled by Germans, Britains, Americans, or Russians? Thanks Why do you ask? Thanks. Stannumhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371077Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371077Anonymous23http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371077http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371077.xmlIs this a photo taken while the camp was controlled by Germans, Britains, Americans, or Russians? Thankshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371076Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371076Stannum24http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371076http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371076.xmlJet Jaguar wrote: So I wanted to know if JEWS DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST.I heard somewhere that JEWS DIED in the HOLOCAUST.But im not sure.Please explain. ___ G'day Jet Jaguar, I just wanted to remind the forum that the original thread poster has contributed exactly one post to this forum. One post from a really confused questioner from who knows where and now we find ourselves at each other's throat. What a fascinating development that a blind drunk Blind Freddy in a coal cellar at midnight with his head up a black cat's bum could have seen coming. I put it to you that Jet Jaguar is loving this. I do not believe that the thread was started with genuine intentions and this is supported by the fact that Jet...http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371030Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:371030Sara Straight & Tall25http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#371030http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-371030.xmlOffensive material removed by moderator Photograph taken January 1945 before the Vernichtungslager Auschwitz-Birkenau was liberated by the Soviet Army. Kappos and sondercommandos stand among corpses taken from the gas chambers. Rudolf Hess commanded the Konzentrationslager. Manned by SS troops. Truth is offensive.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#360722Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:360722Grammar Geek26http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#360722http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-360722.xmlEnough of this! Add me to the list of Jewish-by-heritage, lost-relatives-in-the-Haulocast people you know. I was not offended by the question. It did not speak to denial, only lack of information. The original question has now been answered. Leave off on this aspect of the subject.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#360565Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:360565Sara Straight & Tall27http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#360565http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-360565.xmlNona The Brit wrote: (copy of original posting, which was lost when previous posts deleted). If the opener of the post is interested, he can have a look here: http://www.archive.org/movies/thumbnails.php?identifier=nazi_concentration_camps sara Sara Straight &amp; Tall at 4:09 AM (GMT 1) on Fri, May 04 2007] A dog is prose. A cat is poetry. My post said before it was erased that all the Jews I know feel that asking if the Holocaust is real is very very offending for them. The rest is already here. Sarahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#360136Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:360136nona the brit28http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/7/dmxnr/Post.htm#360136http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-360136.xml(copy of original posting, which was lost when previous posts deleted). If the opener of the post is interested, he can have a look here: http://www.archive.org/movies/thumbnails.php?identifier=nazi_concentration_camps sara Sara Straight &amp; Tall at 4:09 AM (GMT 1) on Fri, May 04 2007] A dog is prose. A cat is poetry.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359821Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359821MrPedantic29http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359821http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359821.xmlWould all contributors please bear in mind that: 1. If a person chooses to post anonymously, it is not necessarily from a desire to "hide". 2. Not every poster has full access to all the historical materials. 3. Not every poster has full access to the Internet. 4. A question is a request for knowledge. If you choose to answer questions, your job is to provide knowledge, not to comment adversely on the lack of it. Any further speculation about other posters's motivation will be deleted. Please stick to the facts. Thank you. MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359779Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359779Alexa For Australia30http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359779http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359779.xmlNona The Brit wrote: Doubt through lack of information is different to doubt from denial - he didn't deserve to be jumped on by you, frankly. As I've said before, I don't have, and can't have, any idea where he is from. He chose to hide it for his own reasons, which can be very valid. But that can mislead the rest of us as to where his ideas come from. If you think he doesn't deserve to be jumped on by me, then delete my posts. Alexahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359769Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359769nona the brit31http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359769http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359769.xmlDoubt through lack of information is different to doubt from denial - he didn't deserve to be jumped on by you, frankly.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359754Mon, 25 May 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359754Alexa For Australia32http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359754http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359754.xmlBut I can't see where he comes from, Nona. And yes, I read the entire post and all the replies before I wrote mine. All my life I've watched my mother and what's left of my family suffering for their loss. We've prayed at the Wailing Wall, we've searched everywhere, and there's nothing, nothing left of them, as if they had never existed. It wasn't that the post contained any element of denial. It was just that it contained an element of doubt. Alexahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359746Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359746nona the brit33http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359746http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359746.xmlWe can see where the posts originate from and he/she does indeed come from a country where the Holocaust is pretty much officially denied, without breaking his/her confidentiality on location. So that is why we've seen the question as really a very positive one questioning what he/she has been previously taught, and seeking the truth. In any case, I still don't see anything offensive in the original question - did you look at the original post rather than just the thread title? Someone heard about something for the first time (for whatever reason) and wanted more information on it. There was no element of denial.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359731Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359731Alexa For Australia34http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359731http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359731.xmlAlso for what it's worth: My mother lost her own father, her little brother, her uncles, her grandparents. She survived, and so did her two sisters. My aunts' husbands: A.M.H. lost everyone but his grandmother. B.V.H. lost everyone. No traces of my mother's father and family were ever found. They were last seen inside a cattle train, destination unknown. The poster didn't say where he comes from. I don't know what he was taught, or where. After all we've said, however, I think he will have an idea that the Shoah is not an invention. Alexahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359720Mon, 25 May 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359720Grammar Geek35http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359720http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359720.xmlFor what it's worth, my mother was born in a Jewish village in Poland near the Russian border in the early 30's, and although she and my grandmother came to the US just before the pogroms, it is assumed that my grandmother's entire family was lost. I'm not in an ivory tower when it comes to this topic myself. I have only contempt for a neo-Nazi skinhead teenager in the US denying it, but I have only encouragement for people asking questions if they are from a place where it is NOT taught.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359718Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359718Alexa For Australia36http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359718http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359718.xmlGrammar Geek wrote: Alex, I really don't see anything insulting in his question. If he is from a place where, as Nona suggests, the Holocaust is denied, and now finds what he is hearing elsewhere to be in conflict with what he has always been taught, then good for him to trying to get more information. He said he was confused, not that he didn't believe it. Sorry. I know there are many places in the world where the Shoah is denied, and many Nazi propaganda still running in the net deny it too. Let's put it this way: Jews can get a bit touchy when the Shoah is doubted. And with reason. Alexahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359699Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359699Grammar Geek37http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/6/dmxnr/Post.htm#359699http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359699.xmlAlex, I really don't see anything insulting in his question. If he is from a place where, as Nona suggests, the Holocaust is denied, and now finds what he is hearing elsewhere to be in conflict with what he has always been taught, then good for him to trying to get more information. He said he was confused, not that he didn't believe it.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#359693Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359693Alexa For Australia38http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#359693http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359693.xmlNona The Brit wrote: ...and he is using the internet to find out more information. It's possible that the op was taught a version of this history that conflicts with the mainstream one and is now questioning that. This should surely be encouraged and not condemned. Maybe, Nona. But as a Jew, moreover, a Jew with ancestors that were killed in the Shoah, I feel deeply insulted by the way the question was asked. Alexahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#359537Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359537nona the brit39http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#359537http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359537.xml...and he is using the internet to find out more information. It's possible that the op was taught a version of this history that conflicts with the mainstream one and is now questioning that. This should surely be encouraged and not condemned.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#359431Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359431Alexa For Australia40http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#359431http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359431.xmlMrPedantic wrote: (Not everyone in the world has access to all the historical material.) MrP No... of course not everyone. But the poster does have access to a whole lot of historical material. He has access to Internet. Alexahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#359332Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:359332MrPedantic41http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#359332http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-359332.xml(Not everyone in the world has access to all the historical material.) MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#358920Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:358920Alexa For Australia42http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#358920http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-358920.xmlYES THEY DID. If you can't bother to read, at least go and watch Spielberg's "Schindler's List". You can watch TV, can't you? Alexahttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#355959Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:355959Stannum43http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#355959http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-355959.xmlJet Jaguar wrote: So I wanted to know if JEWS DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST.I heard somewhere that JEWS DIED in the HOLOCAUST.But im not sure.Please explain. ___ This question is less than polite and illegal to even ask publicly in my country. Stannumhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#351758Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:35:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:351758Anonymous44http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#351758http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-351758.xmlyes he didhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#351069Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:351069Doll45http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#351069http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-351069.xmlIncredibly new?????No, I learned this last year from a documentary.When I first heard of it I got surprised like you, too..I don&#39;t know exactly now which country decided to do this because there was a general statement.It just told it is forbidden his relatives to get married(even they administered an oath to them) because there were people who had a kind of mental illness which is hereditary and has no cure in his family.(sorry I can&#39;t remeber its name now)Also Hitler was thought to have this illnes, too.So, as a solution they wanted to hinder his genes to pass new generations.If I don&#39;t remember wrong, one of his relatives was shown in the documentary but it was an old photo probably he is not living now.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#350950Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:350950Pidr1nhu46http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/5/dmxnr/Post.htm#350950http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-350950.xmlthat's incredibly new...mental ilness he had or he has...and did he leave any relative alive or is anyone of them still alived nowadays? or are they coverted by the german state?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/4/dmxnr/Post.htm#350939Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:350939MrPedantic47http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/4/dmxnr/Post.htm#350939http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-350939.xmlDoll wrote: Do you know that getting married is forbidden to Hitler's relatives for fear of mental illness he has? Hello Doll, I didn't know about that. Where did you see it mentioned? All the best, MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/4/dmxnr/Post.htm#350872Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:35:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:350872Doll48http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/4/dmxnr/Post.htm#350872http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-350872.xmlDo you know that getting married is forbidden to Hitler's relatives for fear of mental illness he has? I think this is enough for you to understand how horrible he and his followers were.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/4/dmxnr/Post.htm#349660Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:35:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:349660Anonymous49http://www.englishforums.com/English/HitlerAdolfHitlerKillThousandsJews-Holocaust/4/dmxnr/Post.htm#349660http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-349660.xmlNo comment for such a stupid words like these ones GO AND LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT JUDAISM we'll always stay in the world as long the world exsist! ----- Proud jew