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Please register if you wish to post here.enXMOD (Build: 3614.32638)http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/3/hllk/Post.htm#273808Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:273808Anonymous0http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/3/hllk/Post.htm#273808http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-273808.xmlI really wish that were true, but I'm afraid they are terribly good at subverting sovereign governments, with sneaky little gangs of sicko elitists.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#273797Sat, 23 May 2009 21:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:273797Aleen1http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#273797http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-273797.xmlthe UN is great at doing nothinghttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#273733Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:273733Twister2http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#273733http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-273733.xmlI believe that the un has an essential role to play in the middle east by giving israel the legal coverage to kill innocent people,so no one would be able to sue it.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#212196Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:212196Nyla3http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#212196http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-212196.xmlDiamondrg wrote: Nyla wrote: In my opinion,the right question is:Has the UN ever been effective in controlling wars?.. And in my opinion the answer is an absolute no! Sadly,I can only agree with you,Diamondrg..http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#211770Sat, 23 May 2009 21:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:211770Diamondrg4http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#211770http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-211770.xmlNyla wrote: In my opinion,the right question is:Has the UN ever been effective in controlling wars?.. And in my opinion the answer is an absolute no!http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#211330Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:211330Nyla5http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#211330http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-211330.xmlIn my opinion,the right question is:Has the UN ever been effective in controlling wars?..http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#211292Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:211292Anonymous6http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#211292http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-211292.xmlThe UN sucks bigtime! It is just an instrument of the greedy banks. It was set up by the 'capitalists' in New York! Read your history books! The same people who cry "free trade". Free for who? Free for them to keep ripping us all off! If you thought the behaviour of the US military was bad, wait a couple of years, and watch the UN thugs at work when there will be noone to stop them!http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#211198Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:211198Anonymous7http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#211198http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-211198.xmlthe thing is that the un can only "prevent war" if both sides agree to let them in it is not their fault that they are innefective but the fault of the governments for not being flexible to their ideas. this is why some reforms need to be taken to create a more powerful and effective institution in the UNhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#208252Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:208252IamAmérica8http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#208252http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-208252.xmlWell the problem is that there is one nation that pretends always to be right, and agrees only when the outcome of the UN council is what they want. If not then they want to go on their own. So, in our world we have a UN and a US. No nation should pretend to be above the UN, just because it can go on its own. That is called a "bully" (or bushy).http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#68864Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:68864matthewg9http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/2/hllk/Post.htm#68864http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-68864.xmlReason, logic and public support can be better backing of a statement than military force itself.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#68247Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:68247Guest10http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#68247http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-68247.xmlAs it is lacking an army, a navy, an airforce, and any arms whatsoever, it must rely on on peaceful measures as it's only means to control war. If someone told me not to do something, but they had no force to back that statement, and I had my mind set on doing it, then I would ignore them as well.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#65242Sat, 23 May 2009 21:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:65242matthewg11http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#65242http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-65242.xmlThe UN is designed to be effective in controlling inter-state wars. In the nineties, there was a tendency towards intra-state wars, such as the emergence of conflicts in Sudan, the Balkan states, etc. Apart from practical aid, little else is done to keep peace because the UN may not intervene in the internal affairs of a state -- it is expressly forbidden by international law.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#65106Sat, 23 May 2009 21:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:65106PantsDaddy12http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#65106http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-65106.xmlthe UN never really was effective at controlling war. Infact i can not think of one time in history when it has ever done so. the UN is also not effective in controlling belligerent nations. it could not agree to do anything in yugoslavia back a few years ago or in sudan right now. while they are good at providing food and medicine and other aid to places in need, they do little for keeping peace. this is becuase they do not have an inforcment power. perhaps if they had a navy with 1000 ships and an army of 100000 tanks then nations would tkae it more seriously. as it stands now it depends soley on other nations for enforcment (mostly USA). but whether it should have enforcement power or not is another debate.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#45655Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:45655David13http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#45655http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-45655.xmlIt becomes increasingly dangerous if there is no balance of power. One nation could hold the world to ransom. However ineffective so far, a U N or something similar is vital unless we want a free for all. There are emerging powerful nations.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#45599Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:45599matthewg14http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#45599http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-45599.xml"No one can control a war realistically." Yes, this is true, but the UN is inept because it has failed to prevent wars -- and not to control them. WWII ensued because the League of Nations procrastinated when Mussollini invaded Africa and when Hitler marched into the Rhineland. Member governments of the UN are indecisive when it comes to preventive action because of their publics' aversion to a national defensive stance -- and governments only rule by the will of the people.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#42370Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:42370job4415http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#42370http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-42370.xmlFirst let me ask you a question: Have you ever made a deal or a bet with someone only to find out they had their fingers crossed? Unless all parties are genuinely honest, this concept of the UN will never work. It is simply a vehicle for more political corruption and chaos. As far as controlling wars, no one can control a war realisticly.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#38943Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:38943eagle16http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#38943http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-38943.xmlHi, I do agree with Mike, however, attention should be paid to fact that UN has always been dependent only a few countries, therefore those few countries can go against the wish of UN or dictate its terms .http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#37833Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:38:38 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:37833Mike in Japan17http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htm#37833http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-37833.xmlThe fact that the topic contains "become ineffective" begs the question "was it ever EFFECTIVE"?http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htmThu, 23 Apr 2009 21:38:39 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:37767prabeersikdar18http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBecomeIneffectiveControllingWars/hllk/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments28-37767.xmlWith reference to U.S action against Iraq,has the U.N become ineffective in controlling wars?