Controversial Subjects

Re: attempted murder or murder

New2grammar — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:22:51 GMT

Thank you, GG.

Re: attempted murder or murder

Grammar Geek — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:20:51 GMT

Yes, N2G, it's in the debate area.

That's where this thread will soon be moving.

Re: attempted murder or murder

New2grammar — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:26:13 GMT

Clive, is there a category on this site called controversial topics? Or is it another way of calling recycle bin? If there's a forum/ place for these topic, could you tell me where? I'm interested in checkingn it out .

Re: attempted murder or murder

Clive — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:20:37 GMT

Hi guys,

If anyone wants to continue this discussion, I or someone else will move it to 'controversial topics'. I'm sure you'll understand why.

Best wishes, Clive

Re: attempted murder or murder

Goodman — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:15:46 GMT

Avangi,
You'd love Texas. They keep the executioner really busy down there.

I am not sure where we want to go with this statement.
The tone of your reply sounded a little sarcasticlly unwelcoming. This is the fact and the reality. I don't want to go too deep into the "capital punishment" topic as this may stir up another round of controversy discussion but I just want to point out, "Libreal" mentality is a disease in humanity in my opinion. If not, how else can we explain why murders and sex offenders are being protected? Every time when San Quentin tried to execute a convict sentenced years ago to the ultimate chair for serious murders, there will always be this bunch of people camping out at the gate of the prison protesting the execution for they believe it's wrong to take a human life, or death being a form of unusualy punishment. I wonder if these people had considered the lives of he murderer had taken? Morover, I like to know if they still woud protest to save the live of this scumbag had one of his family member is his victim? I apologize to the forum for bring up this news but I make no bones about my views.

Re: attempted murder or murder

Avangi — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:49:30 GMT

Clive
It's interesting that in the USA the word 'liberal' seems often to be used in a pejorative way.

Would you believe "always"??

Hi Clive, At 73, I can just barely recall when it wasn't. - A.

Edit. You might enjoy this from 125 years ago - Iolanthe, G & S -
When all night long a chap remains on sentry go to chase monotony/ He exercises of his brains, that is, assuming that he's got any/ Tho' never nurtur'd in the lap of luxury, yet I admonish you/ I am an intellectual chap, and think of things that would astonish you/ I often think it's comical, how Nature always does contrive, / That ev'ry boy and ev'ry gal that's born into the world alive/ Is either a little Liberal, or else a little Conservative (rhymes with "alive," of course)

Re: attempted murder or murder

CalifJim — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:47:57 GMT

Avangi
Come on, CJ, give us back your post. We need some sanity.

I'm glad someone saw it while I was debating whether to stay or go! It's getting too off-topic here. If we don't stick to grammar, we'll have to move the thread to Controversial or lock it or delete it!

Re: attempted murder or murder

Clive — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:00:45 GMT

Hi,
It's interesting that in the USA the word 'liberal' seems often to be used in a pejorative way.
Best wishes, Clive

Re: attempted murder or murder

Avangi — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:44:49 GMT

Goodman
It will be interesting to see how this notoriously liberal prosecutor handles this caseâ¦.!

You'd love Texas. They keep the executioner really busy down there.

Best wishes, - A.

Re: attempted murder or murder

Avangi — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:31:35 GMT

Come on, CJ, give us back your post. We need some sanity.

Re: attempted murder or murder

Goodman — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:57:56 GMT

<<>>That's certainly the anti-abortion argument in a nutshell.

We are about to enter the controversy territory of liberal justice. All I can say is, justice in America has been slowly tainted by the liberal judges and prosecutors. If you donât believe it, look at the sex offenders. thier rights takes precedence over their victims in many cases. But what got me so angry is this killing which took place 2 days ago. At one point Kamala Harris, the chief prosecutor of San Francisco had decided to release the suspect based on reasons that there wasn't sufficient evidence to charge him with the muders. However, he was seen involved in a the senseless road rage killing of the a father and his 2 young sons. Only with community outcries that she bowed to the pressure. Based on information available to me, this dangerous illegal alien criminal now has been detained in jail. The suspect is known to be a member of a notoriously dangerous gang and had prior felony records involving violent crimes. It will be interesting to see how this notoriously liberal prosecutor handles this caseâ¦.!

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A 21-year-old man is being held on three counts of murder related to a road rage shooting that killed a father and two of his sons.

Suspected Gang Member Charged In SF Triple Slaying - News Story ...

Jun 27, 2008 ... However, District Attorney Kamala Harris has previously pledged not to seek the death ... San Francisco Police Search for Shooting Suspects ...
www.ktvu.com/news/16729835/detail.html?rss=fran&psp=news - 10 hours ago - Similar pages

Re: attempted murder or murder

Clive — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:37:20 GMT

Hi,
That's certainly the anti-abortion argument in a nutshell.
Clive

Re: attempted murder or murder

Anonymous — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:37:54 GMT

i think thats if you cause a pregnant womens baby to die its murder. theres no difference between a baby in the womb or a baby out of the womb its still a human being and its murder. i think anyone who does this deserves to be in prison the rest of their life. and never get out

Re: attempted murder or murder

Avangi — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:15:39 GMT

It's a great question, and is not likely to go away any time soon. With the US Supremes tilting to the right the fetus may soon be given voting rights. The liberal justices are very old and will soon be replaced.

In most cases, murder is defined by the states, especially where there's no applicable federal statute. You can find a lot of variation across the US re the prosecution of murder, and where the fetus fits in.

Re: attempted murder or murder

New2grammar — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:22:36 GMT

Thanks, Goodman. I agree with you. I would like to borrow your last paragraph for a discussion. I'm interested in how the tense switching happens.

Thanks, everyone for trying to help. As most said, it's a legal question and only can be answered by a legal expert. Sorry for the poor question.