http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishVocabularyIdiom-Questions/Forum29.htmHelp with defining words and idioms, and new words and idioms that you've learntenXMOD (Build: 3615.39139)http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#637733Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:637733Anonymous0http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#637733http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-637733.xmlOh my, an American speaking of lazyness regarding the written word, whatever next?http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#600408Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:600408Anonymous1http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#600408http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-600408.xmland yet when Americans speak, they pronounce the "t"s as "d"shttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#553408Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:553408Anonymous2http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#553408http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-553408.xmlActually you will find that learnt is not from a lazy spoken word, it is the original British English way to say the word. However more and more US English is creeping into the English (British) language. Oxford English Dictionary was checked for this.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542612Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:542612MrPedantic3http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542612http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-542612.xmlIf you hadn't told me,I wouldn't have known that Mr P was referring to pronunciation Sorry, YL, I should have said. However, at least according to dictionaries some similar words can be pronounced in two ways. Long-legged is one example: . I have only heard the latter pronunciation, though. I wonder if the first alternative is actually used at all even though it is given in dictionaries? That's an interesting one. For the long-legged myotis, I would naturally say "leggd"; though they may say it differently in the US. For Dylan Thomas's "long-legged bait", and Yeats's "long-legged fly", on the other hand, I would say "-leggèd": That civilisation may not sink, Its...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542411Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:542411Yoong Liat4http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542411http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-542411.xmlThanks, CB. If you hadn't told me,I wouldn't have known that Mr P was referring to pronunciation.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542254Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:542254Cool Breeze5http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542254http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-542254.xmlit has to be "a learn è d man". a learned professor (Times-Chambers Junior Dictionary) YL , MrP is referring to the pronunciation . Yes, MrP , I knew that. However, at least according to dictionaries some similar words can be pronounced in two ways. Long-legged is one example: . I have only heard the latter pronunciation, though. I wonder if the first alternative is actually used at all even though it is given in dictionaries? Cheers, CBhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542209Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:542209Yoong Liat6http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542209http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-542209.xmlit has to be "a learn è d man". a learned professor (Times-Chambers Junior Dictionary)http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542051Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:542051MrPedantic7http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#542051http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-542051.xmlOddly enough, no! But then, you don't say "learned" either – it has to be "a learn è d man". All the best, MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#541530Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:541530Cool Breeze8http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/5/bhzlj/Post.htm#541530http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-541530.xmlI think it would be truer to say that BrE uses either, as Yoong Liat says; except where the participle is used adjectivally (e.g. "burnt toast", "burnt finger"). Hmm... Do you also say "a learnt man"? CBhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#541444Mon, 25 May 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:541444Anonymous9http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#541444http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-541444.xmlits a bit bloody rich, an american telling us the english have lazily corrupted our langauge, learnt and learned have different meaning but americans tend to use just one for both meanings, also someone has commented saying that we use "different to" instead of "different from" which is a lie, i hardly ever hear "different to" in this country at allhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#510210Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:510210MrPedantic10http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#510210http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-510210.xmlLearnt is the English/Australian form and learned is the American form! I think it would be truer to say that BrE uses either, as Yoong Liat says; except where the participle is used adjectivally (e.g. "burnt toast", "burnt finger"). Best wishes, MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#510158Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:510158Anonymous11http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#510158http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-510158.xmlLearnt is the English/Australian form and learned is the American form!http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#492284Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:492284Yoong Liat12http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#492284http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-492284.xmlAmE uses the form 'learned' as the past tense and past participle. BrE uses either 'learned' or 'learnt'. (Collins Cobuild English Dictionary for Advanced Learners)http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#492271Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:492271Anonymous13http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#492271http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-492271.xmlThe German thrid-person singular ends in -t.As you all may well be aware, German and English go well back, and the -t in learnt is surely a part of their common ancestry Therefore: He learnt <-> er lernt.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#334562Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:334562Anonymous14http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#334562http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-334562.xmlLEARNT v. LEARNED Well, I use the T version because the ED version would have two meanings. LEARNED means scholarly or is the past tense of learn. To avoid confusion I suggest using the traditional T version for past tense and the ED version when you mean to say someone has studied in-depthly. (In-depthly: not a word, but you know what I mean.) Of course context will aid your reader. Kai Glasgowhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#155830Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:155830Anonymous15http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#155830http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-155830.xmlFrom the vocabulary: verb learned or UK ALSO learnt , learned or UK ALSO learnt I've learned a lot about computers since I started work here. I only learnt about the accident later. She soon learnt not to contradict him both forms are correct, learnt most used in US Silvia from Italyhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#155773Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:155773Anonymous16http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#155773http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-155773.xmlJust a quick one based on the 'different from'/'different to' comment. I also think it's funny how we say in England that an alarm went off, when in fact it came on! What a funny language...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#120644Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120644Tallulah Tam17http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/4/bhzlj/Post.htm#120644http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120644.xmlKhoff, I have never been to Colorado. I have heard it is very beautiful. We have friends in Boulder but in spite of many requests, we have not visited yet. We would love to ski in Vail and/or Aspen. Have you been? We have been to The (fabulous) Grand Canyon in Arizona, (what a wonderful, wonderful sight) and we have seen the Hoover Dam. Thanks for all your tips I have printed them out, so hopefully things will run smoother for me now.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120518Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120518Tallulah Tam18http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120518http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120518.xmlAnd the best one of all which does not seem to be mentioned in any of the lists you sent me:- Civil War.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120491Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120491MrPedantic19http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120491http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120491.xmlWell, I'm not sure that 'large minority' is a contradiction in terms, exactly: you're saying that 49% is a minority, but a substantial minority. I think we're more used to hearing 'a small minority', though, with a sense of not very many %. Here are more and better examples of oxymorons: < http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=define%3A+oxymoron&meta => MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120471Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120471Tallulah Tam20http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120471http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120471.xmlJust because something is accepted, does it mean it is correct? After all, everyone in England says "Different to" when the correct term is "different from". You can actually spot the English by this even when they have worked hard to cultivate an American accent. A bit like an American in England just using a fork to eat with, although that custom seems to be rapidly spreading across the Atlantic I have noticed. (My grandmother was thoroughly modern in her day, she smoked cigars and rode a motorbike until she was over 70yrs. old. It is reputed that she and Tallulah were lovers at one time. That gene has not been passed down, at least not to me, as you can see. I would not be spending my time emailing an English forum, I would be...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120458Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120458MrPedantic21http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120458http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120458.xml...Is an oxymoron ever correct?... Sometimes! 'bittersweet'; 'strangely familiar'; 'tragi-comic'... I suppose 49% is a large minority, if opposed to 51%; and 51% is a small majority. I can't imagine TB as Blanche DuBois. MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120451Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120451LanguageLover22http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120451http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120451.xmlHi Tallulah, You've got your answer regarding the losing, I have nothing else to add. Just wanna say that it is possible to open a new window while you are writing down your message (go to File option and select New and then Window), and use the back button to look for the information you need. It's quite easy and you won't lose anything. However, I always copy the text before doing anything, just in case any errors that closes all of your explorer windown occur (that actually it happens to me from time to time). Oxymoron seems correct to me, though I guess I do not have the right to judge the correct usage of English words! According to Tallulah B. biography at Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talullah_Bankhead ),...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120444Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120444Tallulah Tam23http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120444http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120444.xmlThank you all for your replies. I have printed them out to refer to them when needed. I seem to have made a small circle of friends here, it is very kind of you to take the trouble to answer my questions. I have another English question, I would like to ask. I don't know whether to ask it here, or to post it somewhere else. Perhaps I could do both. Here is the question:- Is an oxymoron ever correct? This is part of the sentence "..... have nasty side effects, which a large minority of depressed people cannot tolerate." Does that sound right to you? (Mr. P. Tallulah B. was quite a girl in her day, and so apparently was my grandmother! We tend to think that bad behavior belongs to this generation, not so. Drugs, drink...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120435Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120435MrPedantic24http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120435http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120435.xmlHello Tallulah To find your own posts, look for MyForums on the Home page. You may be able to find it via this link: http://www.englishforums.com/user/MyForums.aspx It will show you all the threads you’ve participated in. You may also find it easier to work with ‘active forums’, which shows the last active posts in all forums: http://www.englishforums.com/English/TopicsActive.aspx Once you’re here, you’ll see a box at the top of the page with a drop-down menu. The menu has a list of all the separate forums. Once you go to one of them, you’ll see the same navigation box at the top. Then of course there’s the home page, where you can see everything at once: http://www.englishforums.com/ On the home page, if you...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120405Mon, 25 May 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120405khoff25http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120405http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120405.xmlIf I am writing a message and use the back button for a reference, my message disappears. This problem drives me crazy too. I have finally gotten into the habit of using control-c to copy my reply-in-progress before I go anywhere else, and then use control-v to paste it back in. Yesterday I tried to add a message to a thread but there was no "reply" or "post" button. Is it posible that you were in a "locked" or "archived" thread at the time? As far as threads disappearing from the list - have you found the "forum options" box and checked "show all"? Good luck! If you post your problems in the "Help" section the moderators should get back to you pretty quickly.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120389Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120389cairn26http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/3/bhzlj/Post.htm#120389http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120389.xmlHello Tallulah, I found replying to messages difficult at first because my text would disappear each time I clicked the "back" button, so I couldn't check things or refer to previous posts, but then once I simply opened another englishforums site (where I was logged in too) and I've had no difficulty replying since that day. Then again, perhaps there's another easier way that I don't know about (?) rgds, cairnhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#120353Mon, 25 May 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120353Tallulah Tam27http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#120353http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120353.xmlThere is no mystery to my name LanguageLover. (I would there were) My grandmother was American and a friend and admirer of Tallulah Bankhead, so I ended up with the name. I could not pronounce it as a child so I have always been called Lulah. Much as I like the forum and am thrilled to find it, I am finding it quite difficult to negotiate. It seems to be a very lively forum with lots of hits from all over the world. I would really like to be able to partake in discussions without the frustrations. I still cannot understand why this thread does not show up under the original heading. (The main original folder). Unfortunately I am unable to give you the exact title as this whole message will disappear if I reference back to it. There is...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#120112Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120112Tallulah Tam28http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#120112http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120112.xmlSo sorry to hear of the recent spate of bombs in London, people. We are rooting for you over here. NIL ILLIGITIMI CARBORUNDUM EST.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#120103Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120103LanguageLover29http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#120103http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120103.xmlI'm sorry to interrupt, but MrP mentioned that you had a nice screen name, Tallulah. Does it have any specific meaning or implication to something, because I've been trying to relate it to something as soon as I read your first post! I googled it before posting this. As you know, though this is new information to me, it was the name of the famous actress Tallulah Bankhead, and the name of a location somewhere in Louisiana. Have I missed something? Thanks,http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119942Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119942cairn30http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119942http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119942.xmlMrP., as regards the quoted forms from Marlowe and Milton, they must be remnants of the Old English weak verb conjugation. At that time the endings were -ed(e, -d(e or -t(e they originated from the three (major) different groups of weak verbs and, in fact, throughout the whole history of the English language they tended to be confused (like the ablaut series of the seven classes of strong verbs). cairnhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119941Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119941MrPedantic31http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119941http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119941.xmlTallulah Tam wrote: I have blown the cobwebs off Doctor Faustus. You're lucky...still plenty of Wednesday left. Unfortunately the equi noctis are running insufficiently lente at this end... MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119940Mon, 25 May 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119940MrPedantic32http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119940http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119940.xmlThat's kind of you, Cairn. I'm getting over it... Other pairs: 'learned/learnt' seems possible – "I learned Lithuanian at primary school." "Well, I've learnt something new today." MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119938Mon, 25 May 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119938cairn33http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119938http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119938.xmlI've been wondering if the rule works with any of the other "t/ed" irregular verbs - I will come back here.. Sorry about the typo in my previous post, it should have been I feel. And sorry about your cakes MrP. cairnhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119937Mon, 25 May 2009 07:26:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119937Tallulah Tam34http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119937http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119937.xmlI am really enjoying this......I am actually getting my opinion asked! Thank you all for your replies. Perhaps I have been in America too long but I like (a) best. "I have burned the cakes again" is what I would write. But I KNOW I would say :- ***!@# I've burnt the %$*** cakes again!!! Mr P. you have given me some homework. I have blown the cobwebs off Doctor Faustus. Gosh! It's long time ago! "O" level English.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119933Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119933MrPedantic35http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/2/bhzlj/Post.htm#119933http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119933.xmlCairn wrote: a) I burnt my finger on the stove. b) I burned my finger on the stove. It feel that a) is momentary and b) almost hurts. (it might be personal, though) I'm with you on this one, Cairn. "The candle burned all night." "I've burnt the cakes again." MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119932Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119932MrPedantic36http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119932http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119932.xmlHello Tallulah I'd be disinclined to think of the T forms as corrupt. There are many examples in Spenser, Marlowe, and Milton, which suggests that both the pronunciation and spelling are well established in British English. In fact, the older writers seem to have been much more profligate with their Ts: opening Marlowe at random, I find <banisht > ; likewise, <seduc't > in Milton – and whereas a distinction can be made between <learnt> and <learned>, it's difficult to imagine <seduced> without a T sound. Very nice screen name, by the way. MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119905Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119905cairn37http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119905http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119905.xmlHello Tallulah Tam, welcome to the englishforums. I'm not sure if this is what you were asking about: to find any of the threads you participated in, you need to click "My forums" phrase. Oh, I forgot: Which one do you feel is better: a) I burnt my finger on the stove. b) I burned my finger on the stove. It feel that a) is momentary and b) almost hurts. (it might be personal, though) cairnhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119903Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119903khoff38http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119903http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119903.xmlI'm from Denver, Colorado. I lived in Boston for about 20 years (without acquiring any Boston accent) and then moved back to Denver. I don't think I have any particular regional accent - I do have a tendency to put hard g's (sometimes almost k's) at the end of "-ing" words, but that's not a Denver thing, it's just a relic of my Eastern European ancestors. As far as seeing earlier posts - when you click on a forum, such and "Vocabulary and Idioms," there are Forum Options at the bottom of the page. I have mine set to "show all"; maybe yours is set to just show new ones. Also, if you want a list of threads you have participated in, click on "my forums" on the Home Page. The whole site has recently been redesigned, so we're all still...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119858Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119858Tallulah Tam39http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119858http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119858.xmlKhoff, I have a southern English accent, not a Deep South accent, not even a hint, since I am married to an Englishman. Neither of us has, (taken a chance on that one, has or have ?) an American accent, although we have both learned (learnt) to say, "Y'all come back'n see us now" and "chickin n dumplins" with a passable Southern drawl. Where are you from? (A question I have been asked a million times). - "Where y'all from then?" Guess. "Ireland." No thank you . "Australia!" No . "Errrrrrr" I am from England. "Oh, my great gramma came from Manchester her name's Higginbottom, do you know them?" Sorry, I am afraid not . "Do you know the Queen?" Please could you tell me how you and Language Lover found this thread? I have...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119686Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119686LanguageLover40http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119686http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119686.xmlHi Tallulah, I don't know what to say, your knowlege is far beyond my reach ... I guess you're questioning why a single language goes through seperate paths of developing? And which version is more acceptable, the one that sticks to a known rule, or the one that causes a mess in the system of a language? Is this what you're trying to say? And yup, you're quite right about foreigners being better grammarians than the native speakers. If you look throughout the history, you'll find out that most of the grammars, phonetic studies, and any other language related researchers were done by non-speakers of the language who paid attention to the details of the language they wanted the learn. And obviously, native speakers have not tried...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119665Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119665khoff41http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119665http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119665.xmlI just like to hear myself talk, (I guess). So, do you have a British accent with a hint of Southern? Sorry I assumed you were American from your first post. I think you will bring an intersting perspective to these discussions.http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119663Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119663Tallulah Tam42http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119663http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119663.xmlThank you for your prompt and interesting reply Language Lover. I hasten to add here before there is any misunderstanding, that I am English born and bred. I have lived in the States for almost 20yrs. so now I feel as though I belong nowhere in particular! (Peculiar feeling) My questions will probably be related to the differences in our languages. The Americans here will correct me I am sure when I make sweeping statements. I have found that they do say, (and write) spent, wept, kept, etc., In the South they shorten "kept" even further to "kep," but they use "learned" instead of "learnt" and "burned" instead of "burnt" there may well be others, I just can't (they usually say cannot) readily think of just now.. Personally I rather...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119569Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119569LanguageLover43http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htm#119569http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119569.xmlHi Tallulah, welcome to the Forums, I'll try to answer your question according to my own opinion, I'm sure MM will give you a better answer later. Learnt belongs to irregular verbs in British English, though I'd like to add that they were not considered irregular maybe 4 hundred years ago. Just the rule that existed at that time that let the language to have "learnt, spent, swept, meant, ..." is lost now, no longer exist. And this made them irregular. Languages usually tend to get rid of the irregulalarities at some point of time (however, at that time there always be new irregularities to be born), that's why we have the alternative "learned" in American English. I don't know about the...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htmWed, 25 Mar 2009 08:26:54 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:119553Tallulah Tam44http://www.englishforums.com/English/LearntVLearned/bhzlj/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-119553.xmlDear Mr. Micawber, This is a question about the word "learnt" which you have used, and only seems to be used in Britain. I live in the US and the word used over here is "learned," Is "learnt" a corruption? The spoken word which has somehow (and perhaps lazily) become accepted in written form?