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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL Vocabulary and Idioms</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EslVocabularyAndIdioms/Forum29.htm</link><description>Help with defining words and idioms, and new words and idioms that you've learnt</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3260.39585)</generator><item><title>Re: fall down back</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FallDownBack/bhhhz/post.htm#120059</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:39:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120059</guid><dc:creator>nona the brit</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FallDownBack/bhhhz/post.htm#120059</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120059.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Down and back are not used together in this way.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He fell down backwards (don't forget the s) is fine.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He fell back is fine.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He fell down is fine.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But for some reason not fell down back, in this context anyway, as the two directions seem to contradict each other.&amp;nbsp; He fell down backwards means he fell and landed on his back.&amp;nbsp; He fell back also means he moved backwards but doesn't necessarily mean he hit the floor.&amp;nbsp; He fell down means he landed on the floor and it could have been in any direction/position.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;He fell back down would mean that he had already been 'down', moved up, then returned to 'down'.&amp;nbsp; For example 'He struggled to free himself from the mud but fell back down.&amp;nbsp; You can find some ways to use 'fell down back' in this sense, with back meaning to return to rather than the man's physical back.&amp;nbsp; For example 'He struggled to free himself from the mud but fell down, back into the ditch.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope this makes sense!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>fall down back</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FallDownBack/bhhhc/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:23:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:120056</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FallDownBack/bhhhc/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-120056.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Is 'fall down back' the same as 'fall down backward'?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;for instance:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The man hit his forehead against&amp;nbsp;a low&amp;nbsp;ceiling and fell down back(ward).&lt;/P&gt;
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