http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishVocabularyIdiom-Questions/Forum29.htmHelp with defining words and idioms, and new words and idioms that you've learntenXMOD (Build: 3598.39794)http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#936582Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:51:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:936582Anonymous0http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#936582http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-936582.xmla tomato is a fruit, but pepper on the other hand vegetable - n. a plant or part of a plant used as food. fruit - n. the seed-bearing structure of a plant.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#350942Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:350942Anonymous1http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#350942http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-350942.xmlput it in the fridge, that should do the trickhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#299217Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:299217Wilder2http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#299217http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-299217.xmlLeicesterLad wrote: I was always told thar if it grew in the open air and contained the seeds of the plant (eg apple, orange, tomato) it was a fruit. If it grew underground and was a root or tuber (eg potato, carrot) it was a vegetable Leaves (eg cabbage, brussel sprouts, lettuce) were usually classed as vegetables, but should really be called leaves in their own right. I'm not sure how you'd class peas though! Well, just to confuse things even more... I believe peas are actually classed as 'legumes' same as beans etc. ;o) Wilderhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#298991Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:298991Tidus3http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#298991http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-298991.xmlTo keep it simple, think of mealtime. If it's eaten as part of a main dinner course, then it's probably a vegetable (or classed as a vegetable). If it's eaten as part of a starter, or dessert, then it's probably a fruit (or classed as a fruit). Don't worry though - knowing the difference between fruit and veg, isn't really a big issue. Examples of fruit (in the UK anyway) are: apples, oranges, pears, bananas, cherries, grapefruit, grapes, peaches, plums, pineapples, melons. Examples of vegetables: carrots, turnip, peas, cauliflower, potatoes, leeks, celery. Tomatoes are known as a vegetable in the UK - but they're actually a fruit. A banana is also a type of berry. But most people don't know any of that. So don't worry.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#298681Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:298681Feebs114http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#298681http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-298681.xmlHere is a nice simple explanation : http://www.sciencebob.com/lab/q-tomato.htmlhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#298635Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:298635Anonymous5http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/3/crlmm/Post.htm#298635http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-298635.xmlwell scrumpyjackk i think that a tomato is a veg. But thats just me you should go home and EATithttp://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#172306Fri, 08 May 2009 13:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:172306Phuongninhbao6http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#172306http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-172306.xmlI agree with you. We can call vegetable or fruit, it depends on what kind of meals you make or serve. It's also a name, it can be changed in different areas, aim or meals such as salad may be a dish of fruits and also a dish of vegetable .when we use i t for dessert or a dish of meal.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#171661Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:171661LanguageLover7http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#171661http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-171661.xmlAccording to this classification, LeicesterLad, aubergine, marrow,... also fall into fruits category! I thnk, if we are not botanists, then our cooking and eating habits determine which one belomgs to which group! And I guess the same implies to leaves/herbs distinction as well; if coriander is used just used for its flavor, it's a herb. But if it is used as a main ingredient, then it goes to leaves.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#171651Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:171651LeicesterLad8http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#171651http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-171651.xmlI was always told thar if it grew in the open air and contained the seeds of the plant (eg apple, orange, tomato) it was a fruit. If it grew underground and was a root or tuber (eg potato, carrot) it was a vegetable Leaves (eg cabbage, brussel sprouts, lettuce) were usually classed as vegetables, but should really be called leaves in their own right. I'm not sure how you'd class peas though!http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#171445Fri, 08 May 2009 13:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:171445nona the brit9http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#171445http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-171445.xmlHi Khoff, I'm glad someone got my little jokehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#171161Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:171161khoff10http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#171161http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-171161.xmlI'm very worried about my trifle; the jelly won't set. That's probably because you used the tomato jelly instead of the strawberry!http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#170930Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170930TammyBaby11http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#170930http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170930.xmlHly2004 wrote: If you eat it in your meal, or cook it, then it's veg If you eat it as a fruit, it's called fruit. I strongly agree with you! It's not right to think that everything is clear! The border between Fruits and Veg sometimes is very dim! Tammyhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#170821Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170821Phuongninhbao12http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#170821http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170821.xmlI'm very interested about this subject. First, I usually make salad. And I should use tomatoes, cucumber,and basil instead of lettuce.It should be called vegetables because we eat them for a meal. Cauliflower is used for cooking soup. Pepper is added flavour to meals. Secondly, in my country, we use Br.E, and all of students' book have a lot of pictures of vegetables: tomatoes, potatoes, cucumbers, spinach, pepper, cauliflowers, lettuce etc....And fruits are used for dessert such as water melon, orange, mandarin, banana, peaches longan,mangoes, etc,,,,,, But lemon is used to added savour for some dishes. and also a fruit for lemon juice, so we call it fruit It seems Fruits are more delicious than Vegetables for some people. Phuong...http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#170816Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170816Forbes13http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#170816http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170816.xmlThe answer to this question depends on whether you are a botanist or a cook. To a botanist a fruit is the ripened ovary of a plant. This would include all sorts of things that you will not find on a supermarket shelf, whether under "vegetables" or "fruit". To a cook - well we all know what the difference is between fruit and vegetables until we ask the question. Even a botanist (apart perhaps from a very annoying one) is not going to complain if s/he finds peppers in the vegetable section and rhubarb in the fruit section.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#170798Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170798nona the brit14http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/2/crlmm/Post.htm#170798http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170798.xmlI'm very worried about my trifle; the jelly won't set.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170766Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170766Scrumpyjackk15http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170766http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170766.xmlThanks for the help. I managed to confuse my school with this one and now I see why, there is no clear answer. It seems to be pretty arbitrary. I guess there's a grey area in the middle where you can put them where you want. Although officially a tomato is a fruit where I come from (Britain) I prefer to think of it as a vegetable. I think if it's in a grey area then look at how it's prepared and eaten. Still even better to not worry about such trifles (unless bored between classes as was the case with me). As for the cauliflower/cabbage debate I would think a cauliflower is more like a combination between a flower, broccoli and a cabbage. Thanks Jackhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170742Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170742LanguageLover16http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170742http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170742.xmlAnd also you can find tomato juice in the fruit juice list! Though it doesn't seem a fruit to me, but apparently it is to many English speakers. If I wanna translate the Persian word for cauliflower, it'll be cabbage-flower, so it is a kind of cabbage in my country as well, Pemmican.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170723Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170723Hly200417http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170723http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170723.xmlIf you eat it in your meal, or cook it, then it's veg If you eat it as a fruit, it's called fruit.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170668Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170668julielai18http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170668http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170668.xmlTomato is generally considered as a veg. among Chinese, but my American friends insist it is a fruit.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170623Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170623MrPedantic19http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170623http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170623.xmlIt's better not to mention Brassicaceae on this forum. They have been the cause of many a long grim thread. MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170572Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170572Pemmican20http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170572http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170572.xmlCategories concerning food differ sometimes... I was told once not to argue with a native English speaker about whether "cauliflower" is (a) cabbage or not... For a German speaker it is, while for an English speaker it's not... As I said: It's no good argueing about that any deeper...http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170562Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170562khoff21http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170562http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170562.xmlA botanist would say that a tomato and a pepper are the fruit of the tomato and pepper plant, because they contain the seeds. However, a cook would probably say they are both vegetables, because of the way they are prepared and served. The categories are not really mutually exclusive.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170445Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170445nona the brit22http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htm#170445http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170445.xmlA tomato is sweet and it holds seeds. A pepper is savoury.http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htmWed, 08 Apr 2009 13:41:05 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:170437Scrumpyjackk23http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitOrVeg/crlmm/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-170437.xmlI am a little confused about the exactness of the definitions of what a fruit is and what a vegetable is. A fruit is: "the usually sweet part of a tree or bush which holds seeds and can be eaten" A vegetable is: "a plant, root, seed, or pod that is used as food, particularly savoury dishes" So why is a tomato a fruit and a pepper a vegetable? Any help would be appreciated. Jack