http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishVocabularyIdiom-Questions/Forum29.htmHelp with defining words and idioms, and new words and idioms that you've learntenXMOD (Build: 3616.28671)http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#368553Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:368553Anonymous0http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#368553http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-368553.xmlI don't know what to writehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#208029Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:208029Antonija1http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#208029http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-208029.xmlThank you all for your suggestions and comments. Kajjo, I know there are some things in the book that are strange even wrong, but it is fun to read and perhaps it is closer to a Croatian reader than it would be to an, let say, Anglo-Saxon reader.http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206849Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206849Kajjo2http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206849http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206849.xmlDavkett wrote: It take it you'd recommend hyphenating friendly-looking . And I agree, it would make sense in this case.http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206844Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206844davkett3http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206844http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206844.xmlGrammar Geek wrote: In one of those bizarre twists, you generally don't hyphenate a word that ends in -LY. Perhaps because you don't generally hyphenate adjectives. But it seems to carry over to things like "friendly looking face." Some rules just don't make sense. I take it you'd recommend hyphenating friendly-looking .http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206830Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206830Grammar Geek4http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206830http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206830.xmlIn one of those bizarre twists, you generally don't hyphenate a word that ends in -LY. Perhaps because you don't generally hyphenate adjectives. But it seems to carry over to things like "friendly looking face." Some rules just don't make sense.http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206827Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206827davkett5http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206827http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206827.xmlFrom Wikipedia-- "A definitive collection of hyphen rules does not exist", then this-- "h yphens are generally not used in ... adverb-adjective compound modifiers". I don't know how rigid the rule is, because I'm still tempted to think that word order can be relevant: "How many already-pregnant girls will be attending the birth-control lecture?" I believe, however, that I will stand corrected on the point here-- already fed-up husbands.http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206803Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206803Kajjo6http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206803http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206803.xmlHi Davkett, well, I sure would hyphenate an always-grumpy husband (a pretty common species of husbands, I'm afraid) and naturally a never-nagging wife (where do you find that species?). However, again I would decide against the already-aggravated husband, because he appears to me to belong to the species of aggravated husbands and it is just the case that he is already aggravated when we meet him, but does it make him already-aggravated? "Please, could everyone who is stand up?" currently unemployed ---- currently-unemployed already pregnant ---- already-pregnant already hungry ---- already-hungry Kajjohttp://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206796Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206796davkett7http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206796http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206796.xmlI've not researched the rule. The special circumstance here that may be complicating things is that the adjective ( fed-up ) is already hyphenated. Wouldn't we want to hyphenate these?-- an already-aggravated husband an always-grumpy husband a never-nagging wife ?http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206793Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206793Kajjo8http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/2/chxrm/Post.htm#206793http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206793.xmlDavkett wrote: I may be wrong, but it seems to me that in this instance a hyphen also belongs between already and fed-up . Dear Davkett, you might be right! I am never really sure about hyphenation of phrases with words like "already". However, we agree that "fed-up" requires the hyphen in any case. Maybe it depends on how you pronounce the phrase: "an (already-fed-up) husband" or "an already ... fed-up husband". How would you write "an entirely fed-up husband"? I can't imagine using a hyphen in the latter example and I figure the same reasoning could be applied to the phrase in question. On the other hand, I can imagine a "fed-up husband" and such a guy can be already fed-up when we meet him. But how do you imagine an...http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206787Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206787davkett9http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206787http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206787.xmlKajjo wrote: 1. already fed-up husband I may be wrong, but it seems to me that in this instance a hyphen also belongs between already and fed-up .http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206775Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206775Kajjo10http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206775http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206775.xmlAntonija wrote: Now, I would like to say a few words about nagging, the most powerful weapon of married women. You may not be able to blackmail your already fed up husband anymore by threatening to leave him, but if you repeat the problem ten or twenty times in a low, but persistent voice, you will sail into a grandiose conflict, similar to the big naval battle of the old masters in which you will, visually though, enjoy. There is no more beautiful picture than the one of/that shows an upset phlegmatic, who every husband gradually turns into. It is particularly appropriate to nag about sex (-- the) eternal source of dissatisfaction. You should start nagging as later as you can, when both partners are obviously tired. The woman...http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206751Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206751pieanne11http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206751http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206751.xml< You should start nagging as later as you can, > It should be "as late as you can".http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206739Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206739davkett12http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206739http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206739.xmlThen-- similar to the big naval battle of the old masters in which you will find enjoyment, though only / if only visually . or, similar to the big naval battle of the old masters which you will enjoy, though only / if only visually .http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206438Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206438Antonija13http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#206438http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-206438.xmlThanks Davkett. ''visually though'' -meaning that you will not speak with your husband, because you will be pretending to be offended but you will be able to visually enjoy the scene (of seeing him, who is usually phlegmatic, upset). I hope it is clearer nowhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#205614Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:205614davkett14http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#205614http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-205614.xmlalready-fed-up of not good/is of no good (Neither one sounds right.) Maybe "not so great". also, in which you will, visually though, enjoy is awkward.http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#205525Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:205525Antonija15http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#205525http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-205525.xmlNow, I would like to say a few words about nagging, the most powerful weapon of married women. You may not be able to blackmail your already fed up husband anymore by threatening to leave him, but if you repeat the problem ten or twenty times in a low, but persistent voice, you will sail into a grandiose conflict, similar to the big naval battle of the old masters in which you will, visually though, enjoy. There is no more beautiful picture than the one of/that shows an upset phlegmatic, who every husband gradually turns into. It is particularly appropriate to nag about sex, eternal source of dissatisfaction. You should start nagging as later as you can, when both partners are obviously tired. The woman should tilt her head or lean on...http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#205512Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:205512davkett16http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htm#205512http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-205512.xmlGive a little more preceding context.http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htmMon, 27 Apr 2009 07:35:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:205491Antonija17http://www.englishforums.com/English/NotGoodOfNoGood/chxrm/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-205491.xmlHello! Which of the two is better? Thank you The woman should tilt her head or lean on her elbow and she should firstly announce that sex in the marriage is not good/is of no good.