http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnglishVocabularyIdiom-Questions/Forum29.htmHelp with defining words and idioms, and new words and idioms that you've learntenXMOD (Build: 3614.32638)http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775860Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:51:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:775860Avangi0http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775860http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-775860.xmlWow, I was just about to say something about these being prepositions or adverbs, and now I'm confused. Gotta ditch these meds!http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775320Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:03:58 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:775320MrPernickety1http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775320http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-775320.xmlThanks, guys ! I remember noticing early on that the British tend to add "s" to words like "backward" and "forward". (I've read my share of books in BrE), I just didn't know this also applied to "upward of" )))http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775305Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:32:49 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:775305Avangi2http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775305http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-775305.xmlWhen I was in grammar school in New England in the 40's, we were taught that the added "s" is lower register, so to speak. I've now learned that the "s" is BrE. At this point in my life, the bare form is instinctive: backward, forward, upward, downward, beside, toward, etc.http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775300Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:16:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:775300meantolearn3http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775300http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-775300.xmlEither one will be fine. AmE tends to use 'upward of' while BrE tends to use 'upwards of'.http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775293Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:57:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:775293MrPernickety4http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775293http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-775293.xmlHi, Avangi One more point: do you say "upward s of" or "upward of" or both ? I'm asking because the author of the question wrote "upward of" and you sorta went with it )) (I'm cognizant of "upward s of") Thanks !http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775290Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:53:00 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:775290Avangi5http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htm#775290http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-775290.xmlTechnically there's no difference, but "save up" is probably more appopriate in your example because of the humorous intent. "To save up" focuses on the experience of saving - the human aspect of it - the sacrifice, etc., rather than on the cold facts of the accumulation of the needed funds.http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htmThu, 11 Jun 2009 07:20:19 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:775284meantolearn6http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveUp/jvnkq/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments29-775284.xmlIs there a difference between 'save up' and 'save' as in "you may need to save up/save some money first - any one of these unforgettable experiences will cost you upward of US$6,000". Thanks