http://www.englishforums.com/English/LinguisticsDiscussionForum/Forum35.htmGet into the nitty-gritty of the language.enXMOD (Build: 3616.28671)http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/2/bgphn/Post.htm#328170Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:328170CalifJim0http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/2/bgphn/Post.htm#328170http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-328170.xmlnote of achievement This effect is more prominent in the active than in the passive form. I had the car fixed. I got the car fixed. <<< some sense of achievement, not necessarily or even usually through persuasion I had the mechanic fix the car. I got the mechanic to fix the car. <<< more sense of achievement through persuasion In short, I would say you're right. CJhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/2/bgphn/Post.htm#325152Tue, 26 May 2009 06:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:325152Anonymous1http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/2/bgphn/Post.htm#325152http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-325152.xmlHi. I have read in an English Grammar book that when you use "got" instead of "have" with the meaning of something done by someone else there is a little difference in the meaning. when you use "got" there is a note of achievement. For example: it was difficult to get the car repaired but I insisted hard and finally I convinced the mechanic to do it. If I had used "have" instead of "Got" it wouldn´t seem that I had had to convince the mechanic. Am I right or not? Thankshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117830Tue, 26 May 2009 06:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117830paco20042http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117830http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117830.xmlS have/get O done This construction has three usages from semantic viewpoints: causative, suffering and completion. Causative Sense The accent comes on "have"/"get" GET constructs sound stronger than HAVE constructs. HAVE constructs are preferred in formal/polite speech. GET constructs are preferred for imperative use. HAVE constructs are preferred in past tense sentences. (EX-1) I have to get my hair cut at the barber. (EX-2) Get your fingernails cut! (=Clip your fingernails!) (EX-3) I'd like to have these things dry cleaned. (EX-4) I'd like to buyhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117800Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117800Mister Micawber3http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117800http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117800.xmlAbsolutely, MTL-- and people answer questions if they want to, also. Enthusiasm for helping an enquirer who does not seem to get the point after considerable effort wanes.http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117787Tue, 26 May 2009 06:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117787meantolearn4http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117787http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117787.xmlHi all, I think this topic needs a little bit more attention. get/have sth. p.p. The pattern above doesn't strongly suggest who did what. For instance, "I had/got my washer fixed last week" can mean either 1. I fixed the washer myself or 2. someone else fixed the washer for me. "I had/got my job done/finished" can mean either 1. I did/finished the job myself or 2. someone else did/finished the job for me. "I had/got my hair cut" can mean either 1. I cut my hair myself (some people never go to a beauty/barber shop) or 2. someone else cut my hair for me. "I had/got my room cleaned up" can mean either 1. I cleaned the room myself or 2. someone else cleaned the room for me. ___________________________ ...http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117745Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117745paco20045http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117745http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117745.xmlHello We had a similar discussion before (click here). Dr Bailey, a linguist, insists some difference in the meaning between "get" and "have". But as far as I studied in google, people seem to use the two collocations differently only to accord to the register (formal or colloquial speech). pacohttp://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117548Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117548Mister Micawber6http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117548http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117548.xmlThat is a different meaning for 'get'. There are two: I got my car fixed = I employed/asked/etc someone to fix my car. I got my car fixed = I finished fixing my car. (By the way, MTL, if you remember Jim's remarks so well, why have you asked this question again?)http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117535Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117535meantolearn7http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117535http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117535.xmlHi khoff & Mr.M, I remember CJ's comments on 'get sth p.p.' one time. He mentioned that when you say, "I got my car fixed." It doesn't 100% to say the car was fixed by someone else. "I got my car fixed" can mean "I fixed my car myself". Correct? By the same token, "I got my ears pierced" can mean "I pierced my ears myself". Correct? Eventhough, it's very unusual. Thanks for the replies.http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117501Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117501Mister Micawber8http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117501http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117501.xmlPlease do not double-post, Meantolearn-- it wastes valuable time.http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117484Tue, 26 May 2009 06:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117484khoff9http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htm#117484http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117484.xmlFor instance, do 'she got her nose pierced' and 'she had her nose pierced' mean the same? do 'he got his car fixed' and 'he had his car fixed' mean the same? I would say that the meaning is exactly the same, but the version with "got" sounds more conversational; "had" a bit more formal. Both mean that she arranged for someone else to pierce her nose/fix her car. (Maybe you get a discount if you have both done at the same time?)http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htmThu, 26 Mar 2009 07:53:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:117466meantolearn10http://www.englishforums.com/English/GetHaveSthPP/bgphn/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-117466.xmlget + something + P.P. ; have + something + P.P. Do 'get sth. + P.P.' and 'have sth. + P.P.' mean the same? For instance, do 'she got her nose pierced' and 'she had her nose pierced' mean the same? do 'he got his car fixed' and 'he had his car fixed' mean the same? Do we know who did the piercing when we say she got her nose pierced or she had her nose pierced? ______________ Shouldn't it be much clearer if we say 'she pierced her nose' to mean she did the job by herself or 'she got her nose pierced by someone' to mean someone did the job for her? Thanks