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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>ESL Linguistics Discussion Forum</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/LinguisticsDiscussionForum/Forum35.htm</link><description>Linguistics - Getting into the nitty gritty of the language.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3161.22795)</generator><item><title>Re:  Personal and Impersonal Passive</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/zqkrg/post.htm#499109</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:40:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:499109</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/zqkrg/post.htm#499109</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-499109.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;You are coping this information from other site, its not fear, its crime !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would you care to explain that, Anon?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Personal and Impersonal Passive</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/zqkrz/post.htm#499108</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:40:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:499108</guid><dc:creator>Francesca</dc:creator><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/zqkrz/post.htm#499108</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-499108.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Hi Anon! Mister Micawber didn&amp;#39;t commit any crime, in fact as you can see he gave us the link which he took the paragraph from, just click on &amp;quot;internet&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Mister Micawber&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is off the &lt;a href="http://www.ego4u.com/en/cram-up/grammar/passive" target="_blank" title="http://www.ego4u.com/en/cram-up/grammar/passive"&gt;internet&lt;/a&gt; too, Abmateen, but I could do no better:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  Personal and Impersonal Passive</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/zqjqn/post.htm#499099</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:22:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:499099</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/zqjqn/post.htm#499099</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-499099.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;You are coping this information from other site, its not fear, its crime !&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Personal and Impersonal Passive</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/cqdpk/post.htm#246782</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:55:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:246782</guid><dc:creator>Mister Micawber</dc:creator><slash:comments>3</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/cqdpk/post.htm#246782</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-246782.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;br&gt;This is off the &lt;a href="http://www.ego4u.com/en/cram-up/grammar/passive" target="_blank" title="http://www.ego4u.com/en/cram-up/grammar/passive"&gt;internet&lt;/a&gt; too, Abmateen, but I could do no better:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;Personal Passive&lt;/em&gt; simply means that the object of the active
sentence becomes the subject of the passive sentence. So every verb
that needs an object (transitive verb) can form a personal passive&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="example"&gt;Example: They build houses. â Houses are built.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Verbs
without an object (intransitive verb) normally cannot form a personal
passive sentence (as there is no object that can become the subject of
the passive sentence). If you want to use an intransitive verb in
passive voice, you need an impersonal construction&amp;nbsp;â therefore this
passive is called &lt;em&gt;Impersonal Passive&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="example"&gt;Example: he says â it is said&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Impersonal Passive&lt;/em&gt; is not as common in English as in some other languages (e.g. German, Latin). In English, &lt;em&gt;Impersonal Passive&lt;/em&gt; is only possible with verbs of perception (e.&amp;nbsp;g. say, think, know).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="example"&gt;Example: They say that women live longer than men. â It is said that women live longer than men.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although &lt;em&gt;Impersonal Passive&lt;/em&gt; is possible here, &lt;em&gt;Personal Passive&lt;/em&gt; is more common.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="example"&gt;Example: They say that women live longer than men. â Women are said to live longer than men.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;[To form Impersonal Passive] the
subject of the subordinate clause (women) goes to the beginning of the
sentence; the verb of perception is put into passive voice. The rest of
the sentence is added using an infinitive construction with 'to'
(certain auxiliary verbs and &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; are dropped).&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sometimes the term &lt;em&gt;Personal Passive&lt;/em&gt; is used in English lessons if the indirect object of an active sentence is to become the subject of the passive sentence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Personal and Impersonal Passive</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/cqdvg/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:43:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:246591</guid><dc:creator>Abmateen</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><comments>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalImpersonalPassive/cqdvg/post.htm</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-246591.xml</wfw:commentRss><description>&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Asslam-u-alikum,&lt;br&gt;Can anyone tell me what is personal or impersonal passive i have some articles from the internet but they did not satisfied me.so please give me some explanation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>