http://www.englishforums.com/English/LinguisticsDiscussionForum/Forum35.htmGet into the nitty-gritty of the language.enXMOD (Build: 3616.28671)http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#576014Thu, 26 Mar 2009 05:47:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:576014Anonymous0http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#576014http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-576014.xmlhello badfan, personally I feel that the phrase 'I'm loving it' sounds odd in British English but it feels like a kind of American street slang. It's also used in Estelle's song 'American Boy' when she says, 'I'm loving this American boy.' I think it's quite trendy amongst certain groups of people. Hope this is of use to you. Ruth xhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#446429Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:47:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:446429Anonymous1http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#446429http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-446429.xmlState verbs as you correctly say are not usually used in the progressive. It is possible however to do so in some cases. This, however, can change the meaning. The English language is constantly developing and evolving and previous unaccepted usage of the language has become 'accepted'. McDonalds are almost solely responsible for the stae verb 'love' being used in the progressive. Because of their global audience and influence it has now annoyingly found its way into everyday usage, eg, I'm loving this hamburger!! 'Have' when it implies possesion is used as a state verb,eg, I have a blue pen. But when 'have' is used for activities it can be used like an ordinary verb, eg, I'm having a shower, I'm having breakfast. Similarly, the verb...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#132609Tue, 26 May 2009 04:47:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:132609Anonymous2http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#132609http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-132609.xmlOften when a nonprogressive verb is being used with progressive aspect, the meaning is different. It's as if verb is actually a different word. The example given above "seeing someone" is a great example, as "see" in this sense doesn't mean "look at". Another good example is "having a baby", which doesn't mean the same thing as "possess" in the standard sense. What's happening here is that old words are merely being recycled.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#132089Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:47:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:132089Anonymous3http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#132089http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-132089.xmli also have a question... in this sentence... "Now you can understand why, Gandlaf, listening to their groqling and yelping, began to be dreadfully afraid..." is 'understand' a state verb in this context? is 'began' a state verb? or would 'be' be the first state verb in this sentence?http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#96237Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:47:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:96237CalifJim4http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#96237http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-96237.xmlI would say no, the non-progressive tenses of "see" do not connote an amorous relationship. The ??? meant that I feel there's a way to contextualize this remark, but I don't know how to paraphrase it! It would be very rare, I'm guessing, for anyone to say this, but I seem to be able to assign some sort of sensible meaning to it. Maybe in a case of contrast? A. Doesn't it matter to you that you're ruining your teeth by eating all that candy? B. (eating candy at the time, and obviously greatly enjoying it) No! It isn't mattering to me! Also a case of contrast: Proper etiquette matters a great deal to his mother-in-law, but I can see by his rude behavior toward her right this moment that it isn't mattering to him in the...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#95784Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:47:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:95784badfan5http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#95784http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-95784.xmlHi CJ Thanks so much for this list! And I guess you're right - There seem to be some "rules" how the progressive changes the meaning of non-progressives, (and also exceptions from these rules...) : So there seem to be - entering a state, - entering a state, including some uncertainty - emphasizing a state - expressing a temporary state So far there's only one exception, "I'm seeing someone", where the meaning really has changed. Well, or does it maybe just emphasize the situation, i.e. meaning more or less that "I SEE this person REALLY often"...? Does "see" (I mean, when used as a non-progressive) have any connotation of dating or having a boy/girlfriend at all? Btw, what did you mean with: "It isn't...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#95658Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:47:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:95658CalifJim6http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htm#95658http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-95658.xmlIt seems to me that the use of the non-progressives in the progressive tenses amounts to changing the meaning of the verb, whether greatly or slightly. I'm loving it = I'm (really) enjoying it. I'm (really) relishing it. I'm liking it (similar) I'm being bad = I'm behaving badly. Compared to my normal behavior, I'm acting badly now. I'm seeing someone regularly = I'm dating someone regularly. I'm understanding it = I'm beginning to understand it. I'm remembering what he said = to remember what he said. I'm thinking that deaf = It's (slowly) beginning to occur to me that he is deaf. / I'm offering deafness as a possible but uncertain explanation for something. It's feeling cold out = ? It's beginning to feel cold. It may be...http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htmThu, 26 Mar 2009 05:47:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:95407badfan7http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichStateVerbsUsedProgressive/bchcd/post.htmhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/comments35-95407.xmlHello everybody, I'm doing some research for my final paper at university, and I'm not a native speaker of English, so I'd really appreciate your help! According to the Vendlerian verb classes (or categories) English state verbs normally don't have a progressive form. However, some do appear in the progressive (i.e., "he's being stupid") So, which state verbs come to your mind that sometimes appear in a progressive form? And could you please also give a short context/situation for when this happens? One example we came across in class was the advertisement phrase "I'm loving it". What do you feel as a native speaker when you hear this? Does it feel odd to you? Or does it actually have a specific meaning? Are there similar...