http://www.englishforums.com/English/TopicOfTheMoment/Forum38.htmDiscussions on anything and everything, all while helping you learn English. (Just like being in a bar!) Please register if you wish to post here.enXMOD (Build: 3598.39794)http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#568366Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:568366Mike in Japan0http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#568366http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-568366.xmlWe are afraid we still don't get it. Maybe you can freight a barrel or two this way. Yo-ho-ho.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#568326Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:568326MrPedantic1http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#568326http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-568326.xmlI'm afraid I downed half a bottle of a favoured product of Irish Distillers Ltd and changed it to something gruff-pitched and not quite so queer. (Actually, that should be "pruff-gitched".) MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#568228Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:568228Mike in Japan2http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#568228http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-568228.xmlAny chance of your posting your number so we can all enjoy the joke? It sounds like a beauty! :-)http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#568198Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:568198MrPedantic3http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#568198http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-568198.xmlkind of high-pitchedly queer <listens to own voicemail message in sudden apprehension> <...clunk...> MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#567861Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:567861Mike in Japan4http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#567861http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-567861.xmlHmmm... you say you are from Russia, but were you born in the USA? Is it possible you are engaging in a bit of flag waving here?http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#565855Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:565855Anonymous5http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#565855http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-565855.xmlHi, I am from Russia and I am a big fan of American English. It sounds RICH, COLORFUL, VIVID, PLEASANT... Whereas British sounds dull, boring, and frankly, kind of high-pitchedly queer.. People who say that British is the "Classic English" and American English is a "perversion" - go get some education please! American English is evey bit as legitimate as British. In fact, many traits of AE are MORE 'classic' than modern British -- American has preserved these traits from 18th century English, and British has ditched those features since then. For example, EXAMPLE, PAST, CHANCE used to be pronouced in British in the past. As well as order, power, sport were pronouced . It's just that British has shifted...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#512581Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:512581Brazilian clown6http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#512581http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-512581.xmlAll I know is that British accent sounds better but surprisingly...however, I'd rather to speak the American one because words come out easier regarding the pronounciation..of course sometimes when I watch some American movies is unavoidable to dislike some colloquial expressions...some used by rappers, for instance..http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#474656Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:474656Mike in Japan7http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#474656http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-474656.xmlLet's remember that English is greater than any one country, and put blindfolded patriotism aside. The issue is good communication. I maintain that mainstream American English is a lax (see footnote) peculiarity. That does not mean that we shouldn't enjoy it. I certainly do. There is not much better entertainment for me than listening to a Texan drawl, though I am usually left with no idea as to to the drawler's notions. I probably should add that other countries are heading down the same path to 'dumbed-down-ville'; namely all of them. Australia, my own mother country, is a prime example, to wit; "Jegoda the footy?" Friend: "Nar dingo - sorten tv." I guess my point is that being students of good English, as I assume that all here are...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#469678Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:469678Anonymous8http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/13/bhwl/Post.htm#469678http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-469678.xmlOh ' Thee of dark horizons,If it is thy wish above all else. To place false class into the frame work of Mankind so thou can seem in thy world to be of great important's to thy self..So be it ...BUT... Try to remember there are more Americans speaking modern English ...than British,,,,and with that said .. Language is only as ACCURATE as the time in which it live's,,,I notice you do not use correct English yourself like those who lived in the past. , ...Am I to understand that you believe British English has'nt changed in the last 50 year's like American English has ...I dont understand (class of people ) of course putting everyone in a class (so you can feel better about your own self&nbsp is TRUE BRITISH BULLOCKS...Ooops sorry I...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#456356Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:456356Kooyeen9http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#456356http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-456356.xml>>>British English is the superior in my opinion, simply because it is the original English language. Obviously me being English, im going to be biased, but if i were foreign then i would still choose British English over American English. To call American English the dominant English language is ridiculous when you consider the size of the 2 countries. The American continent prefers the American English and Europe and Asia tend to learn British English.<<< Mike In Japan wrote: I agree. Furthermore, in any game, is it not important to follow the rules? It is one thing to improve a language by adding to it, it is quite another to erode it by misunderstanding the meanings of words and then to propogate those...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#456159Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:456159Mike in Japan10http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#456159http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-456159.xmlI agree. Furthermore, in any game, is it not important to follow the rules? It is one thing to improve a language by adding to it, it is quite another to erode it by misunderstanding the meanings of words and then to propogate those misunderstandings. Then to take pride in such misunderstanding is the height of stupidity! We all do it in one way or another, but to pretend that it is improving the language is crap! Add to the language, by all means, after all that is how English has become such an accurate language, but dumbing it down should be seen for what it is; stupid.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#453880Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:453880K-M11http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#453880http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-453880.xmlBritish English is the superior in my opinion, simply because it is the original English language. Obviously me being English, im going to be biased, but if i were foreign then i would still choose British English over American English. To call American English the dominant English language is ridiculous when you consider the size of the 2 countries. The American continent prefers the American English and Europe and Asia tend to learn British English.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#453764Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:453764Anonymous12http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#453764http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-453764.xml"I much prefer the attitude of the British. They have enough respect for the language to use correct spelling, clear enunciation and to observe the correct use of prepositions and general grammar. On the other hand, some Americans seem to like reinventing the language as they go." To use a British word, bollocks! Americans at least pronounce all the syllables in words like "territory" and "secretary". Most of them also pronounce the letter "r" in all positions, where standart British English no longer does. They speak at a slower pace than British English, and as a British English teacher, I am told by my foreign students invariably that they find American English easier to understand. Their pronunciation is closer to the London...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#448736Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:448736Mike in Japan13http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#448736http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-448736.xmlWhich list, Sadeem?http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#448625Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:448625Sadeem14http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#448625http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-448625.xmli think the original English language is British !! but my question : why there is no Arabic language in the list here ????????http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#443422Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:443422Anonymous15http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#443422http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-443422.xmlNoah Webster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Webster) had a huge influence on american english. He is responsible for many of the differences in spelling. Also, after the revolutionary war in 1776, many americans were only too happy to differentiate themselves from Britain by using different spellings, pronunciation, and grammar. Lastly, as someone already pointed out, many in the colonies retained certain ways of speaking that were later dropped in Britain. Don't forget different regions of the United States may have very different pronunciations and usages of common words. For example, a native of Charleston South Carolina may sound quite different from a native of Boston Massachusetts. They will have little problem...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#403726Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:403726Anonymous16http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#403726http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-403726.xmlsay what you want, let ego get in the way to succeed.. if a language doesnt change it's dead... American English is currently the dominant influence on "World English" to the once British colony's. Population: U.S. vs. U.K. (SAE/SBE ca 70% vs. 17% of all native English Wealth of the U.S. economy vs. the U.K., & influences Magnitude of higher education in America vs. the U.K. Magnitude of the publishing industry in America Magnitude of global mass media and media technology influence Appeal of American popular culture on language and habits International political and economic position of the U.S American English has grown steadily in international significance since World...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#365261Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:365261Anonymous17http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/12/bhwl/Post.htm#365261http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-365261.xmlElena wrote: But what kind of erosion? Languages are changing continually, they are an alive thing. If you knew how many words there are in a Spanish Dictionary that we never use and will never use..and each new revision made by The Royal Academy is including new ones. I can't say about American English but we have something similar. Spanish of America is as correct as Spanish of Spain, it was developed in different way. And what do you think?http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#335523Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:335523Anonymous18http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#335523http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-335523.xmlIf I had to reply I would be brief and precise , that British English, is the back bone of every English ain the world followed by the African's, but the American English, is not in the account of this competion , Americans have spoilt english language as well as they have spoilt the world peace, and converted athe globe into a place of fear bloodshes, and attrocities . athank you for understanding hatim mohammad sudanesehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#322238Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:322238Orpheus19http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#322238http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-322238.xmlSpeaking of lazy English, I remember I decided to learn British English because I was too lazy to pronounce the 'R'http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#322013Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:322013Marvin A.20http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#322013http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-322013.xml>> i am learning English at an American College for 11 years ...In 2003 summer i was in Florida, they-Americans- could not realize i am American or not... << Well, then, if you did manage to perfect your accent, then why on earth would you want to change your accent, and come up with a bizarre, trans-Atlantic accent? Stick with what you can do well. That's quite an achievement and you should be proud of yourself.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321900Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321900Ville_maddengurl21http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321900http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321900.xmlI've never seen any Japanese who can use American accent perfectly... On the other hand,Japanese-English is cute i think... i am learning English at an American College for 11 years ...In 2003 summer i was in Florida, they-Americans- could not realize i am American or not...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321788Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321788Marvin A.22http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321788http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321788.xmlUnless you get the accent down perfectly, it's unlikely that anyone will even be able to tell which dialect of English you learned. For example, Japanese speakers cannot make the vowel distinctions between General American and RP, nor can they pronounce their final r's, so they sound "British" (RP) no matter whether they tried to learn General American, or RP, or Scottish English, or any other variety of English. But...their Japanese accent is stronger than their "RP" accent, so they still just sound like they're speaking Japanese-English. I'm serious about this. So, to those of you that think that you're going to end up sounding like you're speaking with a British accent, or a North American accent, you're not...without long dialect...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321742Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321742Ville_maddengurl23http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321742http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321742.xmlMrPedantic wrote: Sorry, Merve, I know it was bad of me...but it was late...I had just completed my annual tax return...(that major work of fiction)...levity inevitably ensued... ~ ~ ~ ~ But do you really want to change your accent to a British one? MrP Never mind, it is really easy to hurt a little girl like me... and you can placate a little girl easily... That's it...You will tease me, i will regret... I will decide to be more vigilant...And you will tease me again and again and again...Until i become ripe and more well-informed than you. Everytime it happens... I want to thank you MrP, i could not think you would tease me...I took my lesson from you; I won't even trust my father... Let us forget British...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321737Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321737Kooyeen24http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321737http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321737.xmlMrPedantic wrote: Oh yes, use "and stuff" all the time. Use it for "etc.", or when you can't think of anything else to say, e.g. MrP: "Well, um, you know, er, not really. Just, um, watched tv and stuff." That's interesting. I thought the expression "and stuff" was only used in American English. There's an animated series in which half of what the characters say is just: "Dude, chicks (for "girls"), like (used like a comma), and stuff /or something (at the end of a sentence), damn, cool, this is gonna be cool, this sucks, Immuna (for "I'm going to"), and various swear words." That cartoon is a kind of "Course in Modern American English Usage". Merve, if you change your mind and want to perfect your American English, that's a good...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321699Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321699MrPedantic25http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321699http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321699.xmlSorry, Merve, I know it was bad of me...but it was late...I had just completed my annual tax return...(that major work of fiction)...levity inevitably ensued... ~ ~ ~ ~ But do you really want to change your accent to a British one? MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321527Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321527Ville_maddengurl26http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/11/bhwl/Post.htm#321527http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321527.xmlI am a pure idiot! well, i did something wrong, you teased me ... i went on , then you went on teasing me instead of warning... Now give me a honest advice MrP ; how can i live with this shame? and please don't tease this time...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321507Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321507Marvin A.27http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321507http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321507.xmlOf course if you do decide to go back to an American dialect, just put in the word "like" in all of your sentences, and add "dude" at the end.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321505Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321505Marvin A.28http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321505http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321505.xml>> I got what you meant MrP ... When i make a conversation , i use them (um, er..etc) involuntary. For example if we were talking face to face , i would say 'i use them ,umm,invotuntary.' . Because i would think to find a fit word... In my opinion , i have not found that kind of expressions necessasy so far. I will use them frequently from now on. << I hope you know that he was being droll (at least I hope). I would ask that you not attempt to overuse such words. He was pointing out how unclear some English dialects can be.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321446Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321446Ville_maddengurl29http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321446http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321446.xmlI got what you meant MrP ... When i make a conversation , i use them (um, er..etc) involuntary. For example if we were talking face to face , i would say 'i use them ,umm,invotuntary.' . Because i would think to find a fit word... In my opinion , i have not found that kind of expressions necessasy so far. I will use them frequently from now on. Thanks MrP In addition to i am happy that you paid attention to correct my mistakes ...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321438Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321438MrPedantic30http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321438http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321438.xmlOh yes, use "and stuff" all the time. Use it for "etc.", or when you can't think of anything else to say, e.g. _____ ESL student: "So, how was your weekend, MrP?" MrP: "It was, um, ok." ESL student: "And did you do anything interesting? Did you go to a film, for instance, or read a book? Or visit some friends?" MrP: "Well, um, you know, er, not really. Just, um, watched tv and stuff." _____ "Um" and "er" and stuff are very important to BrE speakers. They allow us to make our sentences (and thus our conversations) much longer than they would otherwise be, without actually saying anything. ("Actually" is useful, too. Three syllables. Can't be bad. Fills many an awkward gap.) MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321427Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321427Ville_maddengurl31http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321427http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321427.xmlThank you for your advices and helping me to fix my mistakes MrP... MrPedantic wrote: And say "er" and "um" and "right?" a lot. And 'er' ,'um' ,stuff (i think i should not use stuff to be kind...)... Why are they important for British people? Thank you again...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321422Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321422MrPedantic32http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321422http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321422.xmlVille_maddengurl wrote: i want to give American accent up and learn English accent to talk more intelligible...is it OK now, MrP ..? I'm sorry, VM, you're going to have to speak much more slowly. In fragments. Without verbs. And say "er" and "um" and "right?" a lot. And add quite a few expletives. Preferably in a glottal mumble, through your nose. Then British people will understand you... MrPhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321277Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321277Ville_maddengurl33http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321277http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321277.xmlSo whassup? lol that was good! Kooyeen wrote: So the simplest is probably the one you use everyday or hear most of the time. That's a good point! I hate American English but people around me are using it enduringly... Normally ,i think it's kinda clear. But the English people i talk think that my spoken style is rubbish... Even i have problems with Turkish accent... i cant pronounce Turkish words correctly- i live in Turkey for 13 years-... well, now your advice could be ' throw yourself from a bridge'http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321251Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321251Kooyeen34http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321251http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321251.xmlVille_maddengurl wrote: i want to escape from American accent and get English accent... it is the most intelligible one ! You'll never succeed, American English will chase you and will catch ya! It's everywhere, you can't run away, you can't hide... it'll eventually find you, and it'll be like: "Oh my God Ville Maddengurl, it's been like, a while, so whassup? We are like, going to the mall or something. Are you coming?" ---- And then it'll be too late to run away, Ville Maddengurl, you're gonna answer: "Oh my God, like, totally!" Ok now, seriously, I don't think British accents are simpler to understand. I actually don't know what accents are simple to understand, I would say American, but probably because I'm only used to...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321246Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321246Ville_maddengurl35http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/10/bhwl/Post.htm#321246http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321246.xmli want to give American accent up and learn English accent to talk more intelligible...is it OK now, MrP ..?http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#321210Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321210MrPedantic36http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#321210http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321210.xmlVille_maddengurl wrote: i want to escape from American accent and get English accent... it is the most intelligible one ! I'm sorry, VM, I didn't quite catch that. Could you say it again, please?http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#321178Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:321178Ville_maddengurl37http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#321178http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-321178.xmli want to escape from American accent and get English accent... it is the most intelligible one !http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#320468Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:320468Anonymous38http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#320468http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-320468.xmlfriend, i agree with you point by point and i believe there has been some miscommunication between us. I explictly stated that the simpler word should be used instead of the more complex one. "Many of those 500,000 words would not be understood by many people. I am a firm believer in Plain English. People that use fancy Latin terms when a nice, understandable Anglo-Saxon one would do are annoying." i stated earlier, "Sure, it is better to use the simpler words instead of the more complex in any given situation, but it is sad when the more intricate and sophisticated word is not used when appropriate and the speaker is unable to communicate effectively." To put it more clearly, in a situation where two words are equally as...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#320349Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:320349Marvin A.39http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#320349http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-320349.xml*** do you not understand? Go ahead, ask a common American to describe how they feel about someone they love - be it kin or spouse, etc - and see if they can explain with nearly as much eloquence as common speakers of other languages*** I'd say that's simply a cultural difference. Even if they spoke a different language, I'm sure they would be just as terse. So we can't blame that on the English language. *** English has about 500,000 or so words in the dictionary, but Americans (at least here in California) unfairly neglect a huge portion of that library.*** Many of those 500,000 words would not be understood by many people. I am a firm believer in Plain English. People that use fancy Latin terms when a nice, understandable...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#320295Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:320295Mike in Japan40http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#320295http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-320295.xmlGreat post, Anon.!!! It's a little untidy (I hope you don't mind me saying that), but you make some very good points. Thanks for your valuable input.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#320252Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:320252Anonymous41http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#320252http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-320252.xmlsorry to revive this discussion if it has already been past expiration, but i think not nearly enough has been discussed about this subject. I must warn anyone i usually have an indirect and evasive way of writing or speaking, so please forgive me if i lack coherence. Also my grammar is not very conventional, but in fact, i communicate strictly for effectiveness (if i had a choice, i'd rather be a philologist - a lover of words than a linguist - a scrutinizer of words). I am not an expert at language like i imagine many others in this board are, but i am a keen observor and i believe in what i am about to explain with enough conviction to give a go at it. I have noticed that Americans are indeed very lazy with their speech . I have been...http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#311473Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:311473Electro42http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#311473http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-311473.xmlWell, I didn't read the posts above mine, but I could stand the point that American English is really a lazy English - there are many words which in English are written in a more difficult way, also the pronunciation is kind of easier in American English. But, that's my own opinion. I wouldn't argue with anyone on this subject. Maybe only an English teacher could say a more authentic explanation.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#311255Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:311255YoHf43http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#311255http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-311255.xmlYes, please. Make us laugh too.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#311247Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:311247Mike in Japan44http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/9/bhwl/Post.htm#311247http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-311247.xmlHey, Elida... you know something we don't? Please tellhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311244Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:311244Elida45http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311244http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-311244.xmlMike In Japan wrote: Oh well, as they say, nothing good lasts forever. HAHAHAHAHA....http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311221Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:311221YoHf46http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311221http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-311221.xmlI surely shall. I may also help you find a sporty and - at the same time - reliable bike, since my room is filled with that kind of magazines.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311217Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:311217Mike in Japan47http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311217http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-311217.xmlOh well, as they say, nothing good lasts forever. I'm off to get a fresh beer, then I think I'll start some type of motorcycle thread in the sports section. Drop over there in a while, if you like.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311207Fri, 08 May 2009 09:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:311207YoHf48http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311207http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-311207.xmlUnfortunately not. Had to sell it in order to get a new scooter.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311203Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:311203Mike in Japan49http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsAmericanEnglishLazyEnglish/8/bhwl/Post.htm#311203http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments38-311203.xmlThis is well off-topic, but do you have a bike now, YoHf? I haven't had a bike since leaving Australia a few years ago, but I'm thinking of getting another this year.